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March 26, 2011 at 10:19 am #1167imported_RyanMember
This is question for you referees out there. I’ve been reffing for the past few months, but I’m getting conflicting information on the correct procedure for whistle blowing at face-off’s.
Some people tell me to blow the whistle before each time I drop the puck. This makes sense to me as it indicates that play is about to start again. However others are telling me not to do that and only to blow the whistle before the start of a period.
Which is the correct procedure?
March 26, 2011 at 11:04 am #16502KyleMemberWhat I do is not blow the whistle at the beginning of each period, and after each goal is scored – referee faceoffs.
My interpretation: The whistle blowing is the signal that the linesman has taken control of the faceoff from the referee after the change signal comes down. Doesn’t happen when the referee takes the face off.
From the version of the rulebook that’s just expired, p 37: “1. The whistle shall not be blown by the official to start play.”
March 26, 2011 at 11:28 am #16503imported_RyanMember"Kyle":2bb2b4bx wrote:“1. The whistle shall not be blown by the official to start play.”[/quote:2bb2b4bx]That seems fairly clear then.
So blow the whistle to indicate changing from linesman to referee face-off, otherwise no whistle. I should be able to remember that ” title=”Smiley” />
March 26, 2011 at 11:31 am #16504imported_RyanMemberSince I’m in question asking mode, I’ll continue …
When the back referee or linesman sees a potential icing, they hold their right arm up. I’m not sure if they should wait till they know it’s going to go across the goal line, or if they should lift as soon as the puck crosses the center line and could possibly reach the goal line.
I got screwed up with this the other day, as I looked back to the other referee before the puck reached the goal line. They didn’t have their hand up, so I called off the icing, but about two meters before the goal line, the other referee (two man system) put their hand up. I’d already waved it off, so continued accordingly, but I’m not sure if that was my error, or the other referees fault.
My fault? Their fault? That is the question.
March 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm #16505KyleMemberBack official signals as the puck crosses the center line and they think it could possibly be icing. They need to call it out and hold teir arm up until the front official blows it or washes it out.
If for some reason they think it isn’t icing, they need to give a clear washout signal, with a loud ‘no’.
If you think the back official should be indicating icing or not and they haven’t, point clearly at the puck as you skate after it. You should then get an icing or washout call.
March 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm #16506imported_RyanMemberI’ll put that down as “their fault” then ” title=”Smiley” />
Third question:
When I first tried refereeing, I was told that on a center spot face-off, the non puck dropping referee in a two man system, always skates in the direction of intial puck travel and the puck-dropping referee goes the other way. In practice, I find people tend to wander in whichever direction the flow the game takes them in.
This often screws things up when I bolt straight to whichever direction the puck travelled in off the face-off as we occasionally end up both manning the same line, which is silly.
Is there a standard procedure for this? Or should I just go with the flow as most referees seem to?
I’ve started “going with the flow” as best I can, simply because it seems to be working better with most of the referees I’m on with, but I’m not sure if that is the “correct” procedure or not. I’ve asked individual referees their opinion on this, but the responses vary wildly.
March 26, 2011 at 7:34 pm #16507KyleMemberTypically with any faceoff in a centre ice spot, the non-dropping official goes to whichever line is needed to be covered immediately, leaving the official that dropped the puck to cover the other one.
With all things though it’s a matter of communication between officials. If a team wins a clean faceoff back to their D at centre ice and is looking to put a pass through to the attacking blue line I would tend go to that attacking blue line as the non-dropping official, despite the puck initially being won the other way. The officials need to look at each other to see where their partner is going as its all about communication.
March 27, 2011 at 12:06 am #16508vpatrolMemberI thought this was a whistle blower post. I wanted to know who was tattling on who. Instead its only about dirty ol refereeing. Disappointed.
March 28, 2011 at 7:27 am #16509thirteenMemberWith the whistle blowing at face offs Im much the same as kyle except i do blow it when i am dropping the puck after a goal has been scored. I do this to let the players know it is time to square up and get ready for the puck drop. within 5 seconds of the whistle blowing the players should be ready to take the faceoff so it is then that the puck is dropped.
you will notice in a 3 man system that the ref will raise his hand during a stoppage of play, this is to signal to the away team that they may not make anymore changes to that they have already made (read no new players may come on the ice once the hand goes up), the home team then has roughly 5 seconds to match their lines accordingly. When the ref drops his hand, the home team may make no more changes and the linesman will (should) blow the whistle. Again this whistle is to let the players know they have roughly 5 seconds before the puck is dropped to get ready, upon the completion of those 5 seconds the puck is dropped and the play resumesMarch 28, 2011 at 11:01 am #16510imported_RyanMemberToo much stuff to remember ” title=”Sad” />
March 29, 2011 at 1:24 am #16511thirteenMemberi thought computer guys were good at remembering stuff?
March 29, 2011 at 3:55 am #16512imported_RyanMemberApparently not.
I have a memory like a goldfish.
It’s not so much a matter of remembering it, but a matter of being able to process it whilst skating around huffing, puffing and concentrating on 20 other things at the same time. I saw someone elbow someone else the other day, but by the time it registered that I should have called a penalty, 10 seconds had passed and I felt like it was too late, so I just let it slide …. not good. I am slowly improving though and I don’t seem to miss (as many) obvious off-sides anymore.
March 31, 2011 at 1:30 am #16513thirteenMemberok to put it simply, blow the whistle to let the players know when to get ready, give them 5 seconds then drop the puck. their problem if they are not ready after 5 seconds.
if you mess up shit happens its not the end of the world, they cant blame a loss on 1 call or 2. just as long as you are consistant, even if that is consistantly bad, no one will careMarch 31, 2011 at 3:21 am #16514KyleMemberdropping the puck after they take too long is what you used to do. The advice these days is that you should throw out the centre when they get there, and give the bench their warning.
Then second time they do it, delay of game penalty.
March 31, 2011 at 8:05 am #16515ChrisMemberKyle, I think that would have helped with our DIHL team this week. Our forward line wasn’t on time for a faceoff once, I don’t think!
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