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http://www.tv3.co.nz/VideoBrowseAll/SportsVideo/tabid/317/articleID/28842/Default.aspx#video%5B/url:2j41zvrk%5D
Does anyone else find this a little disturbing…..I know we have imports in National league and I know they are good, but each team is limited to 5, so out of around 80 players only 20 are foreigners maximum.
They picked the Red Devils who rely heaviest on Imports, in Stampede there are only about 3 or 4 I think and two are goalies. So in reality there is less then 20, which is less than 1/4It sort of implied the league was full of them, why didn’t they spotlight our local talent instead. and how is it that they can turn up to a training but not to a game??
Well at least they talking bout Ice Hockey I guess…I just feel the media iis obsessed with foreigners playing not the NZ, last story I can remember on main news about Hockey was about some russian who came to Auckland….
It didn’t give me the impression that the league was full of imports. But it did give me the impression that they’re leaps and bounds ahead of the locals which I’m not convinced is true.
Ryan,
I thought the imports angle was just the way to get the story on tv. It’s just as likely to have come from the NZIHF as from the media. TV news is free publicity remember.
I concur with Ryan about the better than NZers angle. The Swedish goalie – Ericsson, I think most people who saw him play down here thought he was pretty good. The Hungarian guy? I can’t remember him at all from the games down here. Maybe he had a good game, but the player of the first game I would have given to Paris or his two linemates. I wonder what the stats say about domestic vs international players.
Though it’s pretty impressive to get someone who’s had 50 caps for Hungary playing down here I guess.
I was trying to figure out where that Hungarian guy was from. He’s pretty good and so far he is the best player I’ve seen in the league. I thought he dominated the first game.
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As the quality of hockey improves in the league the quality of the imports will too and so the media will always have the foreigner angle to write about.
There is a boat load of awesome players out there that could be recruited to Dunedin in tandem with attending college. I think having quality imports raises the bar for the locals. Stiffy and Christos need better players so that they can improve. Right now they aren’t forced to improve because they are playing with me.
” title=”Grin” />Janos is probably the top individual player in the league. He certainly has individual skills but what he brings to the table is his smarts. He just makes him line mates better. That’s really the test of a top player. That is why imports are important for the league and garner the media attention. They raise the level of the game in markets that are tough to develop on their own.
Stampede have 5 imports as well by the way. 4 candians (me, Lewis, Haines, Bonazzo) and 1 italian. I think the Devils rely much more heavily on their imports. Take away the swedes and Janos and they have a much different looking team.
New Zealand is not a big Ice Hockey country, so extolling the fact we have imports here is not going intice the everyday punter along, unless you get Wayne Gretzky to come the only name most people will recognise. Janus maybe good, but people arn’t going to know that.
Talk about New Zealands National league, indicate the teams in it, I may have missed it but did it mention the Auckland teams at all?
Say its being going for a couple of years,say it has got to a level were foreign players, from good Ice hockey countries, want to come here to play in it, to highlight the level it has got to. Instead of telling us about the imports.
Perhaps even mention there is a cap on the foreign players,I don’t know it just rubbed me the wrong way, if it was meant to promote national league, it failed,I mean my mum watched and thought it was about “People from weird countries playing Ice hockey in New Zealand” (not to politically correct my mum)
She didn’t realise it was about National League at all.I showed it to my flatmate and told her about the foreign player cap, then asked her how she thought the NZ players compared to the foreigners and she seemed to assume that the locals were only in the league because of the player cap. I wasn’t trying to make her think that by telling her about the player cap, but it was her assumption after watching it.
I think these little snippets on the TV do help the sport though. As the saying goes “all advertising is good advertising”.
We need to find someone with an obsession with videoing, a decent camera and a decent computer for video editing then we could just supply the stories to the news stations, I don’t see that happening any time soon though
” title=”Tongue” />Ryan,
"Azzy77":3g0kb31f wrote:New Zealand is not a big Ice Hockey country, so extolling the fact we have imports here is not going intice the everyday punter along, unless you get Wayne Gretzky to come the only name most people will recognise. Janus maybe good, but people arn’t going to know that.Talk about New Zealands National league, indicate the teams in it, I may have missed it but did it mention the Auckland teams at all?
Say its being going for a couple of years,say it has got to a level were foreign players, from good Ice hockey countries, want to come here to play in it, to highlight the level it has got to. Instead of telling us about the imports.
Perhaps even mention there is a cap on the foreign players,I don’t know it just rubbed me the wrong way, if it was meant to promote national league, it failed,I mean my mum watched and thought it was about “People from weird countries playing Ice hockey in New Zealand” (not to politically correct my mum)
She didn’t realise it was about National League at all.[/quote:3g0kb31f]
Having watched the video, I don’t think it was meant to promote the league in general. One must remember that tv3 is going to pitch what they find interesting for their viewers, not what the NZIHL would like them to say. They focussed on a specific team mainly because they think the top player comes from there. I think it serves a great purpose in that it shows people that there is in fact some good hockey being played in NZ. Going over details like where all the teams are and what the import rules are is not very interesting. Informative perhaps but not interesting. This was an interest piece. I think it serves ice hockey well. Any exposure is good. I’m sure the league and those involved with hockey would have liked to see more but that was not the target audience. It was meant for people who aren’t involved with hockey. A snapshot. I think its positive. My two cents.
"Ryan":3h6owdg5 wrote:We need to find someone with an obsession with videoing, a decent camera and a decent computer for video editing then we could just supply the stories to the news stations, I don’t see that happening any time soon though” title=”Tongue” />
[/quote:3h6owdg5]Local media might accept that for broadcast, but national TV channels won’t.
Occasionally they use home movies (or even stuff off youtube, which looks ghastly) but that’s only when they really want a story, and couldn’t get it themselves. Y’know the plane crash caught on home video camera or the fuzzy security camera showing some All Black getting in a punch up etc.
Quality is one of the reasons, but others have to do with ownership, copyright, exclusivity, and I suspect, reporters and professional camera people wanting to keep their jobs.
I agree with you Aaron, it didnt really promote the national league, and it did give the vibe that there were a bunch of foreign players playing here in New Zealand. They should have interviewed Speirs or Glassy, they have more of an idea of what it means to play in the National League. The foreigners have been here for like one year, they know nothing of the game here really.
Cheers Stefan I was starting to think I was the only one….
My sister came round for dinner tonight, and was like oh I saw that thing on Ice Hockey the other night, I was like oh yeah what you think, and she was like theres a lot of foreigner players playing in Cnaterbury huh?
I was like yeah but the piece was about foreign players in the National league.
To which she replied oh really, I thought it was just about foreigners playing hockey in Caanterbury.
So I guess what I am trying to get at, is sure it says there is decent hockey being played in New Zealand, but it sort of gave the impression ( to my mum and my sister, who i guess are related so could both have the same gene that fails to pick up the gist of news items, which I also could be afflicted with) that it was being played by foreigners.
Now I don’t want to sound xenophobic or anything, but to me that sort of gives the impression that top level hockey is unaccesible to locals,which would be a big turnoff to most New Zealanders sort of like why would I want to see a bunch of foreigners play hockey, which by the way most people won’t because the lack of emphasis on National league.
Maybe I am wrong and I am misjudging NZers but thats just my ten cents, we haven’t had two cents here since early 90’s
"Azzy77":1f24b7c7 wrote:Maybe I am wrong and I am misjudging NZers but thats just my ten cents, we haven’t had two cents here since early 90’s
[/quote:1f24b7c7]I’m an import and we still have cents back home. lol
"vpatrol":1wwhsrr7 wrote:I’m an import and we still have cents back home. lol
[/quote:1wwhsrr7]Yes, but everyone I met over there admits that they’re useless and annoying! But they still have them.
"Kyle":1vm51qnj wrote:"vpatrol":1vm51qnj wrote:I’m an import and we still have cents back home. lol
[/quote:1vm51qnj]Yes, but everyone I met over there admits that they’re useless and annoying! But they still have them.
[/quote:1vm51qnj]We don’t want to render the saying “a penny for your thoughts” as obsolete. As well, filling a sock with nickels (5c) or dimes (10c) would just be too expensive for common criminals who want to swing it around as a weapon. Gotta think of the poor after all.
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