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"Kyle":2ogeqa7i wrote:But whatever ticket price you charge, you won’t get all of it to fund the teams. The rink will keep a significant portion of the money wherever you hold it.[/quote:2ogeqa7i]
Actually I was assuming the rink would take ALL of the money apart from the teams costs. I think it would be too risky for them other wise … or too risky for whatever organisation did it since they’d need to cover both teams costs AND rink costs.
"vpatrol":2ogeqa7i wrote:why does the rink require half? How about we pay them the $300 per hour ice hire and they can keep vending sales.[/quote:2ogeqa7i]If I owned a rink I would not accept that deal.
CIHA bankrolls any shortfalls we get so extras go to them which I think get bumped back to devils anyways. The actual rink is privately owned. They rent their services. Their services are roughly 300 per hour. Why should they profit from the game other than vending sales which they keep?
I agree, same deal in Queenstown. We pay the rink $350 per hour for the facilities but we run the event so we take any profit. With the NZIHL, $3700 has to go to the league per round and then we pay seating & advertising. Anything above that goes back to the club.
"vpatrol":1j7qd6rc wrote:why does the rink require half? How about we pay them the $300 per hour ice hire and they can keep vending sales. That’s how nzihl works. Why would it be different for IB’s vs Aus. Plus that game would be an awesome way to get kids caring about competing for an IB’s spot in the future. Can’t put a price on that.
[/quote:1j7qd6rc]Because (at least in the instance of the upcoming NZ/Aus tests), the rink is taking care of the marketing etc costs.
Unlike a team practice, the ice isn’t the only thing they’re providing.
"Kyle":3n5vjf6p wrote:"vpatrol":3n5vjf6p wrote:why does the rink require half? How about we pay them the $300 per hour ice hire and they can keep vending sales. That’s how nzihl works. Why would it be different for IB’s vs Aus. Plus that game would be an awesome way to get kids caring about competing for an IB’s spot in the future. Can’t put a price on that.
[/quote:3n5vjf6p]Because (at least in the instance of the upcoming NZ/Aus tests), the rink is taking care of the marketing etc costs.
Unlike a team practice, the ice isn’t the only thing they’re providing.
[/quote:3n5vjf6p]One would assume nzihf would do the marketing and the rink only supplies however many people they think they need for vendor services. Still only one zamboni guy.
Yes but there are costs to the venue of holding an event – staff, security, cleaning, consumables, damage. Eden Park doesn’t hire out the rugby field in the middle for a couple of hundred bucks and then the All Blacks pocket all of ticket sales. The venue gets a cut.
I guess those rinks are treating the ice time as some sort of loss-leader. Every other sports stadium I’ve heard of charges a vastyl different fee to rent their facility for viewing by spectators than for private usage.
I recall being told a figure of $50,000 to rent the WestPac Stadium in Christchurch for a large spectator audience.
Well perhaps it’s different in Dunedin.
We provide our own security. We set everything up ourselves including the music/sound system. We clean up the rink before the games and after. We (QIHC) actually own the boards and all the netting so any damage is repaired at our own expense. They simply run the canteen and groom the ice."cowgirl":1ieg1564 wrote:Well perhaps it’s different in Dunedin.[/quote:1ieg1564]It seems so.
I never knew the QIHC were so involved with the Stampede. I thought it was run as an entirely separate entity much like the Thunder is.
Dunedin Ice sports owns the rink and plant and runs its business interests. Dunedin Ice sports consists of the three ice clubs, curling, hockey and skating all who have equal representation on the board who governs the rink management. So in effect all ice sports members have ownership of the rink and contribute to the support of the Thunders financals (current losses) Any profit made goes back to the clubs in one form or another (ice time, changing rooms, seating, lighting equipment etc) and any losses have the opposite effect.
The problem in Dunedin is the people who would do all that security and/or music are in the team.
It would seem any other hockey player in Dunedin has no interest in helping. As the thunder have never been approached by volunteers. We are currently looking for some one to do music this weekend, let us know if you are interested.
"Azzy77":2381yn2r wrote:It would seem any other hockey player in Dunedin has no interest in helping. As the thunder have never been approached by volunteers. We are currently looking for some one to do music this weekend, let us know if you are interested.
[/quote:2381yn2r]That’s not true Aaron. Michael arranges volunteers for every Thunder game. The peewee manager rounds up people to help with pre-sold tickets and giveaways.
yea mike does a good job orgainising officials and the kids are an awesome help but that still dooesnt leave us with anyone who wants to do the lights and music, security too.
"Ryan":stpu0slr wrote:"cowgirl":stpu0slr wrote:Well perhaps it’s different in Dunedin.[/quote:stpu0slr]
I never knew the QIHC were so involved with the Stampede. I thought it was run as an entirely separate entity much like the Thunder is.
[/quote:stpu0slr]Well I guess it’s actually supposed to be the Southern League that organises and hosts the games for Stampede. I know that Thunder in different because they made that call to go out on their own when they started up. Like I’ve said previously, Stampede games are organised by the Queenstown Club and the Sopers from Gore.
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