Anyone want to see NHL games live in NZ?

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    What a dumb question, of course you do. Oh wait you can’t. Why? cause sky is stupid and they don’t have the balls to go to the NHL and request it. So here is what I think we should do. Get a petition going and get people to sign it. But one club isn’t going to do anything, we should get the AIHA and the CIHA involved and get them to sign it. Send 2 copies, one to Sky and one the NHL. It may not get anything going, but it would show that there is interest and if we keep bugging the right people, then it may just happen. On top of that, the guy the heads TV3 is a huge Sens fan and apperently he got to watch game 5 at his office live on TV. He got it patched through from Canada cause TV3 is owned by the Canadian company Canwest Communications. Anywho, anybody think that is a good idea to get a petition going to get NHL games here?

    #5289
    Michael
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    it can’t hurt.

    #5290
    vpatrol
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    Easiest way to watch it is with a slingbox.  That’s assuming you have someone is canada or US who is willing to patch you into their internet connection and television.  Some bars in Q town have done that (Canadian run of course)

    The television rights may now be under the control of NASN (North American Sport Network).  It’s a European based company that secured rights for Europe in 2005 and they had the option of picking up Asia Pacific as well.  I can’t recall whether they exercised it or not.  I can’t imagine Sky having the ability of picking it up.  It’s not like it was when ESPN held the rights prior to the lock out.  They difinitely can’t piggyback a Canadian signal since territory rights are clearly laid out.

    Sadly its a sticky situation not easily remedied I don’t think since its all contractual instead of viewer demand oriented.  Video tapes anyone?

    #5291

    I don’t get why you don’t all just download them. I spose they wouldn’t be live, but I’m not sure if Sky ever had many games live anyway (I’m not sure though). A broadband net connection is cheaper than Sky and the quality’s probably better too.

    I’ll PM a certain hockey player who may be able to organise cheap access to easily downloadable hockey games. We should be able to get direct download access to video files without having to mess about separately torrenting everything. Cost would be about $10/month each I think. Downloads should be close to 1 MB/sec if you have a fast connection.

    Kinda illegal, but if we don’t have access to them any other way I don’t see any problem with it.

    Ryan,

    #5292
    Michael
    Member

    What a good idea, that ice hockey player you were talking about thinks its a great idea, and will work out a price depending on how many people want them, the more people the cheaper it is as it only needs to cover running costs. Also the certain ice hockey player would need the torrents or a location to get the games from first, It is also possible to stream them and the delay would only be about 30mins after the games are over depending on how fast people are to release torrents.

    #5293
    Kyle
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    Sky used to have a couple of games a week live, and then more once you got into postseason.

    Personally I downloaded the 5 Stanley Cup finals games and that was my broadband for the month blown.

    Make more sense for someone to maintain a library and people to burn games to DVD if anyone else wants them. Silly to have two people in Dunedin both downloading the same two games.

    #5294

    Well unlike some people, I am a die hard fan and love to watch them live and I know that there are other people as well that like watching them live. Ask the 5 guys who sat at Arana Hall last year watching Game 5 of the finals on the big screen then all jumping at once when Pisani scored in over time to win the game. That was live and there is nothing better.

    #5295
    "Kyle":1cyt93gl wrote:
    Personally I downloaded the 5 Stanley Cup finals games and that was my broadband for the month blown.[/quote:1cyt93gl]

    Sounds like you need a better broadband plan!

    #5296
    Azzy77
    Moderator

    A broadband connection would give better quality than sky, explain??

    Do you not understand the beauty that is live sport?
    Knowing the emotions you are feeling are the same as the fans everywhere at the same time, and connection to the players, as though everyone watching it, and playing is connected by some sort of mystical connection, that enhances everyones senses.
    So that power and beauty is that much more amplified than if you were watching a delayed game, when the force of the game has wilted away and you, you are the only person feeling those emotions, and you feel empty, so you don’t feel obligated to watch it, no matter what.
    During a live game, people neglect their bladders*, they can’t move to go to work or school, the phone is like satans evil puppet designed to ruin your appreciation of what you are viewing.
    A delayed game those obligations no longer hold us to the screen we can get up make a coffee, pause it and go to work, if we know the score watch until we have seen all the goals, then stop. Will we stand idley by well Sky starve us of our live sport….

    No friends let us rise up and take back our right to live Hockey…..

    *Seriously during World cup the urologists had to work over time in Taiwan as all the men were holding on so they didn’t miss any action, and damaged themselves…
    And I have heard ancedotes about water usage surging at halftime breaks in cities during major sporting events

    #5297
    Michael
    Member

    In all likely hood sky wouldn’t play them live any way they would be delayed, via internet you will get a delay of about 30mins depending on how quickly someone releases it to download, it would be avalible for streaming and low rates for those on slower broadband and high detail for those with fast. I would certainly burn copys for anyone who cant use the internet but it wont be as quick as watching it off the net, the other option is find someone overseas who can supply a live feed which I can 
    use to redistribute via the internet.

    once again, I highly doubt sky would ever give 100% live games, they would be quite delayed as it would not be a priority as I see it.

    Edit: if any one has any contacts over there, all i would need is a single link to a server based US which wouldn’t use much of there bandwidth, I could then stream it live to all those here, and would even have people around to watch it over my broadband connection if they couldn’t watch them from home because im nice <img decoding=” title=”Cheesy” />

    #5298
    Azzy77
    Moderator

    Sky used to play hockey live three or four times a week in the glory days..
    The thing is Hockey is live at middle of day, so its not competing against major sports in New Zealand, so what you get happening on sky then is scrabble champs, or skip rope….

    Sure theres American Football, Basketball, and Baseball, but what sky used to do was give each game a day each and then alternate the left over ones between the four, so we could get live hockey…

    Besides its mostly the playoffs we are interested in, so its only Basketball, as Football is still predraft than, baseball, is going through its preseason…

    So you have two major events competeing, surely they could be staggered, and I know it costs money but sky has a lot, so they could use more than one of the four freaking sports channels they have, since most of the time sky one, is just playing whats on ESPN….

    We could get live hockey

    #5299

    Could not have put it better Aaron. I almost had a tear in my eye. Best LIVE sporting moment in my 22 year history is the 2002 Winter Olympic hockey finals. Myself and the rest of Canada were all watching that game LIVE and the emotions with all those people backing the greatest hockey nation is one of the greatest feeling sin the world, my worst came in 1994 when I was just a wee lad at 9 years old. I tasted my first defeat as a Canucks fan (Don’t worry many more would come later on lol) The Canucks lost game 7 against the Rangers. I cried. Nothing beats live sport, NOTHING!

    #5300
    "Azzy77":shthrvdr wrote:
    Sky used to play hockey live three or four times a week in the glory days..
    The thing is Hockey is live at middle of day, so its not competing against major sports in New Zealand, so what you get happening on sky then is scrabble champs, or skip rope….

    Sure theres American Football, Basketball, and Baseball, but what sky used to do was give each game a day each and then alternate the left over ones between the four, so we could get live hockey…

    Besides its mostly the playoffs we are interested in, so its only Basketball, as Football is still predraft than, baseball, is going through its preseason…

    So you have two major events competeing, surely they could be staggered, and I know it costs money but sky has a lot, so they could use more than one of the four freaking sports channels they have, since most of the time sky one, is just playing whats on ESPN….

    We could get live hockey
    [/quote:shthrvdr]

    Plus those are all on ESPN anyways. ESPN doesn’t broadcast hockey anymore so there would be no conflict would there? They have 3 sport channels and ESPN. I don’t see a problem with conflicts.

    #5301
    Kyle
    Member

    I point up the page to vpatrol’s comments on ownership. The NHL contracts out the broadcast rights to one or more media networks – probably several, one in each region. The reason we used to get NHL here is because Sky picks up ESPN and ESPN had the rights. In order for us to get NHL therefore, Sky would need to pick up whatever network was carrying it. Can’t see that happening.

    Sky certainly wouldn’t buy the rights independently, even if they were available for this region. Sky’s interested in how many additional subscriptions they’re going to get out of picking up an event. NHL would only get them a few hundred at the most, and it would cost way more than that income to get the rights.

    "Ryan":21ropvtm wrote:
    Sounds like you need a better broadband plan!
    [/quote:21ropvtm]

    Sounds like I need to earn a lot more money. The plan is fine, unless you want to start downloading 2 and a half long videos a couple of times a week.

    #5302

    I didn’t realise Sky used to play so many live games so I take back what I said. I assumed if we did get hockey on TV then the only thing being shown live would be the Stanley Cup.

    "Kyle":12qx8wej wrote:
    Sounds like I need to earn a lot more money.[/quote:12qx8wej]

    I pay $29.95/month for 25 GB/month data transfer from Slingshot. I downloaded about 10 games in one week last year on the same plan and it didn’t even make a dent in my data transfer limit. But I’m not really into watching hockey on TV so haven’t bothered since. The only broadband plan cheaper is Orcon I think at $19.95, but they only give you 200 MB/month! So I still reckon you need a better plan.

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