Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand?

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  • #10459
    thirteen
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    Section 13 of the Fair trading Act 1986
    No person shall, in trade, in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or services or with the promotion by any means of the supply or use of goods or services,?
    (a) make a false or misleading representation that goods are of a particular kind, standard, quality, grade, quantity, composition, style, or model, or have had a particular history or particular previous use; or
    (b) make a false or misleading representation that services are of a particular kind, standard, quality, or quantity, or that they are supplied by any particular person or by any person of a particular trade, qualification, or skill; or
    (c) make a false or misleading representation that a particular person has agreed to acquire goods or services; or
    (d) make a false or misleading representation that goods are new, or that they are reconditioned, or that they were manufactured, produced, processed, or reconditioned at a particular time; or
    (e) make a false or misleading representation that goods or services have any sponsorship, approval, endorsement, performance characteristics, accessories, uses, or benefits; or
    (f) make a false or misleading representation that a person has any sponsorship, approval, endorsement, or affiliation; or
    (g) make a false or misleading representation with respect to the price of any goods or services; or
    (h) make a false or misleading representation concerning the need for any goods or services; or
    (i) make a false or misleading representation concerning the existence, exclusion, or effect of any condition, warranty, guarantee, right, or remedy; or
    (j) make a false or misleading representation concerning the place of origin of goods

    #10460
    thirteen
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    Sections b e and f.
    Also with this sort of legislation it is the purpose of the statute that will prevail, the purpose being to stop people ripping other people off with misleading conduct

    #10461
    plod16
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    Was there any case law or precedents attached to the relevant sections?

    #10462
    Paul Roth
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    There is some case law on the Fair Trading Act, but each case is decided on its own facts. The main legal issue here (actually, mixed law and fact) would be whether the advertisements are actually misleading,  or merely puffed up (eg, “Canada vrs USA”). I suppose it could depend on whether this is supposed to be taken as a real hockey game (which, unsanctioned as it is by the NZIHF and other bona fide hockey bodies, would be unlikely), or as simply an athletic event or demonstration akin to professional wrestling.

    I checked the definition section of the Act out of curiosity, and “service” certainly includes amusements, entertainment and shows, so a demonstration hockey game would be covered under the Act.

    There aren’t a lot of prosecutions under the FT Act (11 last year, 30 the year before), as most people are brought into line by informal CC inquiries, as here. I think what will influence whether the promoters here are prosecuted is whether people who attended the games will complain about being misled and ripped off. By that stage, however, the circus will have left town, and only the NZ promoter will be left to carry the can, not the Canadian guy who is organising the event. And if the NZ promoter has a limited liability company, the company could be wound up in the flash of an eye if there is any prospect of heavy penalties.

    #10463

    I may not have used the correct word with “criminal” perhaps. To me, a criminal is someone who breaks the law, which is what I was meaning.

    #10464
    plod16
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    More spin from the promoter in The Press today under ‘Friendships go cold when USA, Canada clash’, check it out!

    Teams named as well, maybe someone can scan and add it to the thread. 11 man teams = not real hockey!!

    #10465
    Active
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    Put some kiwis dressed as  Canadians and Americans. They can speak with fake accents  and know one will ever know!

    #10466
    Azzy77
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    #10467
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    And Ryan you never did call anyone criminals, that was Vpatrol. “scum’ was the delightful term you used

    #10468
    Azzy77
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    I like how Kerry Goulet is the voice of Ice Hockey. Seeing as no one has ever heard of him. Voice of hockey in Moosejaw maybe?

    Bates Battaglia (35,USA, 580 NHL games) –
    Played for USA in World Champs, no Olympics, spent some time in Carolina (was there for playoff run in 01-02),Colorado and Toronto. Consistently in NHL from 98-03, since then has been mainly in AHL, with limited NHL game time.

    Mark Hartigan (33,Canada, 102 NHL games) –
    Played for Thrashers, Ducks, Blue Jackets, Red wings. Has two Stanley Cup rings from Red Wings and Ducks, but not on Stanley Cup since didn’t play enough games. Is currently playing in KHL.

    Kevin Doell (31,Canada, 8 NHL games) – Played for Thrashers, most of his time spent AHL, currently playing SM-Liga in Finland

    Aaron MacKenzie(30,Canada, 5 NHL games)- Played in NHL. Played in Czech league with Hasek, currently playing in Austria.

    Cam Paddock (28, Canada, 0 NHL games) –
    Never played NHL despite newspaper claims.

    Brad Smyth (38, Canada, 88 NHL games) –
    Spent time with Panthers, Kings, Rangers, Senators, Predators. Was playing in KHL went unsigned now in EIHL playing with the Belfast giants.

    Aaron Miller (39,USA,677 NHL games) –
    Played with Nordiques, Avalanche, Kings and Canucks, like Hartigan has Stanley Cup ring but not considered to be part of team that won the Stanley Cup in 95 season. Has been to the Olympics with Team USA though

    Derek Armstrong (38, Canada, 477 NHL games)-
    Played Islanders, Rangers, and Kings and St Louis Blues, didn’t get a full season on NHL to 02, despite being drafted in 92.

    So we are hardly talking the creme de la creme of the NHL, some good journey men, should be decent hockey. Also there Stanley Cup winning claims seem to be tenuous since the players I could find with rings, never played enough to get the name on the Cup.

    Hope this helps people who didn’t know who these guys were, are

    #10469
    Azzy77
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    Seems quite weighted towards Team Canada too.

    #10470
    thirteen
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    jp bertrand knows kerry goulet, used to play with him or commentate or something

    #10471
    vpatrol
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    "Active":1q77udya wrote:
    Put some kiwis dressed as  Canadians and Americans. They can speak with fake accents  and know one will ever know!
    [/quote:1q77udya]

    Except for the not playing like americans or canadians part.

    #10472
    vpatrol
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    "Active":2eq8gtxv wrote:
    And Ryan you never did call anyone criminals, that was Vpatrol. “scum’ was the delightful term you used
    [/quote:2eq8gtxv]

    Can you please show me where I called them criminals?

    #10473
    Active
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    Oops sorry V patrol. It was Ryan after all. My apologies

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