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August 4, 2011 at 11:15 pm #10579vpatrolMember
So can we now talk about the people who have been putting in hours and hours of work for nz hockey for more altruistic reasons? The people who were here before greasy promoters came and the ones who will be here after they leave?
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https://slapshot.hellyer.kiwi/index.php?topic=1905.0August 5, 2011 at 2:41 am #10581KyleMemberThis feels like a forum topic that is well finished.
I’m glad it’s over, it wasn’t a disaster, and there’s possibly some positive effects for ice hockey in terms of people being interested in watching and playing the sport. It’s been a little divisive amongst the ice hockey community and I really don’t think the conversation needs to go onto further – better to go back to the NZIHL topic, the Winter Games, the Skate of Origin, the World U20 champs – all the things that we do to promote the sport.
August 5, 2011 at 2:52 am #10582ActiveMemberagree
August 9, 2011 at 3:13 am #10583thirteenMemberWe can still bitch about them! Like how, in dunedin, they had the charity auction tucked in a corner no one was walking past and then had their own merchandise stall out the front, even though they broke even in auckland and had made a shit load of profit. or how the “home of the thunder” carpet, which the thunder kneel around before each period was taken from their changing room and run over with a fork lift? or how they never went out of their way to say anything about the fact that hockey was played in new zealnd, despite claiming to want to promote the game here?
Big ups to kerry goulet and the players for caring though, had a yarn to them and they were most keen to promote the nzihl, one even took a thunder hoody home with him and proclaimed that he wanted to return and coach the thunder to victory, though that was clearly a jest of the moment
August 10, 2011 at 4:13 am #10584imported_RyanMemberThey’re there to make money, not help charities. So I don’t see any problem with them making sure their merchandise stall was more prominent.
August 10, 2011 at 12:13 pm #10585imported_RyanMemberIt seems Craig Douglas has been accused of inappropriate use of trademarks in the past too:
From http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic … d=10409665
[quote:25g4avlw]Playboy seeks charity cut…
lawsuit has been filed in the New Zealand courts against Craig Douglas, who organised a Playboy Ball in Christchurch in September that drew celebrities such as All Black Byron Kelleher
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Since then, Playboy had written to Mr Douglas advising him of a lawsuit being brought based on a series of trademark infractions.[/quote:25g4avlw]
Follow up here:
http://www.chinaipr.gov.cn/casesarticle … 331_1.htmlAugust 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm #10586keithMemberFive years ago that’s history
August 10, 2011 at 10:49 pm #10587keithMemberI don’t care about the guy himself BUT that was a charity function five years ago and he was told he was trading on trademarks, I understand that you can not apply the rule to all rabbit heads his was not the same as playboy and he called the BALL the playboy ball, Winston Peters also attended the lawyer that he is??
Craig Douglas does push the boundaires to the limit.August 10, 2011 at 11:12 pm #10588Paul RothMemberI think that rather than dwelling on the past, we ought to be learning some lessons of effective promotion of our sport for the future from the Team USA/Canada games (minus the puffery — and after all, it was just an show). I was surprised not only at the crowds of people who wanted to watch ice hockey, but also at the range of sponsorship achieved by the promoters, as opposed to level of sponsorship achieved currently. Maybe the NZIHL needs to hire a professional promoter if they want to grow the sport. An up-to-date website would sure be a good start! But also, how about some newspaper and magazine stories? The Team USA/Canada show seemed to have no trouble planting their self-promotion stories in the papers.
The NZIHL needs to use newspaper and radio and giveaways to pack in the crowds. The rink needs to look like an exciting place to be. A game has to be promoted as an event, not just an ice hockey game between 2 teams. The NZIHL needs to appear more in the sports sections of our newspapers. It is entirely absent from the Sunday papers, for example.
I found it really sad that over this past weekend, there were maybe only 150 people attending the Thunder/Stampede games, as opposed to the full-to bursting crowd that jammed into the ice stadium just a few days before. I hadn’t noticed any mention of the games beforehand in the ODT or the give-away papers.
August 11, 2011 at 1:39 am #10589imported_RyanMemberYeah, hopefully lots of lessons will be learned.
I don’t think any hockey events in NZ (bar maybe this one) have been promoted in a particularly aggressive way before. I recall talking to Kyle about this for the DIHL a few years back, but we never had the funding or time to do something like that.
We need someone to pop out of the woodwork who enjoys doing promotional work like this. This stuff never seems to work very well when it’s the event organisers sending out notices at the last minute because they’re too busy doing a bazillion other things to get the events off the ground. And just creating a role and shunting a volunteer into it probably wouldn’t work either as it would require them having both motivation and skill in that area.
August 11, 2011 at 10:23 am #10590keithMemberNow your talking heads up to that
August 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm #10591imported_RyanMemberI have no idea what that means.
August 12, 2011 at 2:51 am #10592ChrisMemberI think he means it’s a good idea.
August 15, 2011 at 11:59 am #10593KyleMemberPretty cool time lapse video of the rink being put up and down in Christchurch: http://vimeo.com/27707167.
I might need to watch it again – did they put any ice on top of the markings at all? Or was that edited out.
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