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May 2, 2007 at 11:38 am #2294JoeMember"Kyle":g92y3pwp wrote:
Joe’s goodwill…..
[/quote:g92y3pwp]Thanks for the compliment Matt. I’ll shoot when I can, and the club can have any pics I take. I’m happy to help out anyway I can and if my pics are beneficial to the club then I’m happy to do it. It’s a hard rink to shoot in though and I’m still not happy with the results I’ve been getting. I’m gonna try sitting on a ladder in the end zones and see if I can get some better pics.
Besides, I’d way rather have Jenel’s coaching.
May 2, 2007 at 11:40 am #2295KyleMember"rookie#19":l72ze8wd wrote:As far as i know the act of icing the puck when there is not long left in a game is a common tactic, and besides, at this level of hockey, is it really important?
[/quote:l72ze8wd]I dunno. If Mike had stuck you in the box for delaying the game, would you have thought it was important?
May 3, 2007 at 1:00 am #2296battered_and_bruisedMemberI was the one who iced the puck to start off. There was from what I gathered 5 seconds left. The DIHL is what they call a beer league in Canada, no one takes it seriously. I mean if you are considering making a rule change about this, then that is pretty sad. It’s part of the game and a good defencive strategy and if you want to make a rule change, then why don’t you make a rule where you can’t play a trap? My god you refs have got to stop being so anal about things, especially with things like this. It’s beer league guys, let the little things go.
May 3, 2007 at 2:08 am #2297KyleMember"battered_and_bruised":14w9rzl2 wrote:I was the one who iced the puck to start off. There was from what I gathered 5 seconds left. The DIHL is what they call a beer league in Canada, no one takes it seriously. I mean if you are considering making a rule change about this, then that is pretty sad. It’s part of the game and a good defencive strategy and if you want to make a rule change, then why don’t you make a rule where you can’t play a trap? My god you refs have got to stop being so anal about things, especially with things like this. It’s beer league guys, let the little things go.
[/quote:14w9rzl2]Well it’s a discussion that Mike started having with Stefan, and then with me, about the appropriate thing to do in the situation. I don’t think you should call delay of game on an icing, but if Mike comes up with a different answer, and backs it up with a rule or something from the IIHF casebook, then good on him. I mentioned it in the forum because it’s an interesting point, and as Ryan pointed out, the rules were designed for stop-time, not running-time games. One of the things we’ve been talking to the referee coordinator about is providing more information to players about rules and referee decisions, so that players can better understand the rules and how they’re implemented, so that they can play better hockey.
I understand that a bunch of players do treat the DIHL as just a social league, but a lot of people also take it very seriously. I know it was a big thing up at John McGlashan last year when their team won the B grade. Lots of people will never play hockey more serious than this, and some of them don’t view it as a ‘beer league’ at all. They expect referees to get it right (as I noted in the original post, we do get things wrong occasionally!). I’ve been in DIHL games where refereeing has affected the outcome of the game (the infamous Blake-blowing-the-whistle-denying-Pete-Sanford-a-goal incident of Autumn 2006 possibly denied Bullfrogs a spot in the final).
I can’t speak for other referees, but personally I’d want to referee a DIHL game just as well as a Prem game, and just as well as a Peewee house league game. Just because the skill level and intensity varies, doesn’t mean that the refereeing changes. Most of us referees are relatively new to the job, and the one of the ways we get better is by talking to each other about our decisions and the rules and providing feedback to each other. It’s a question that I’d want to know the answer for for a DIHL game, because it might come up when I’m refereeing Dunedin Prems vs Queenstown, and I bet then you’d want us to get it right.
And Ryan suggested the rule change, and he’s not a referee. So his anal nature comes to him naturally ” title=”Smiley” />
May 3, 2007 at 5:08 am #2298ActiveMemberI kinda agree with Kyle
When you referee you are always confronted with situations where you have no clue what to rule and its vital if you want to get better,to delve into an inconclusive situation in order to clarify it and rule accordingly next time it happens. Therefore Battered and Bruised, Ive decided that next time you take to the ice and Im reffing, you have to sit out 3.5 minutes of penalty time and I can do this because I have the power not because it is in the rule book. Or you can give me a beer after the game.May 3, 2007 at 5:23 am #2299matt aMemberfeel the judicial burn ryan, feel it good….haha you’ll just seem more badass at the end of the league ryan when you have hours of penalty minutes simply from icing the puck at the end of every period/game, and also for unintentional injuring of the refereeing contingent….
May 3, 2007 at 5:27 am #2300battered_and_bruisedMemberlol oh we will see. The amusing thing is that I have yet to get a penalty. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it ya tree hugging hippies!!!!!
May 3, 2007 at 5:30 am #2301battered_and_bruisedMemberCoach Ryan: Why’d you turn against me, Steffy Pooh? For six years,I taughtcha how to skate,I taughtcha how to score,I taughtcha how to go for the “W”.You could have been one of the greats!An’ now look at yourself. You’re not even a has-been.You’re a never-was
May 3, 2007 at 5:38 am #2302ActiveMemberB & B
I dont like Speights OK. Macs or Heniken will be fine
RefMay 3, 2007 at 6:15 am #2303ActiveMemberMatt A
“Feel the judical burn” Thats 5 minutes in the bin for overly creative writing for you Shakespeare.
RefMay 3, 2007 at 6:41 am #2304matt aMemberwhat are you, the linguistical gestapo? haha nah kidn, at least il have Ryan” I’m gona burn your f*#@ken candle” wick in the bin with me, although not being able to see where his eyes are looking whilst being in such close proximity is of slight concern…
May 3, 2007 at 7:10 am #2305imported_RyanMemberIt never ceases to amaze me how excited you guys get over a discussion about rules! Most of these don’t have any effect in yer average game anyway.
I’m not even sure how’d you’d regulate a rule like that anyway. You can’t just put somebody in the box for icing the puck obviously, and deciding whether someone is doing it to delay the game is a bit arbitrary and open to interpretation.
"Kyle":19rwb3ik wrote:And Ryan suggested the rule change, and he’s not a referee. So his anal nature comes to him naturally Smiley[/quote:19rwb3ik]
Eh, who you callin’ anal bean pole?Ryan,
May 3, 2007 at 7:16 am #2306matt aMemberryan, ever the cynical overlord…..
May 3, 2007 at 7:24 am #2307imported_RyanMemberPerhaps I should post some Shakespeare to keep the linguistics gestapo at bay?
Ryan,
May 3, 2007 at 7:35 am #2308matt aMemberaah negative on the shakespeare ryan, however i do like the “beanpole” call on kyle, i do see the resemblence, yes. Spindleshanks is another term that comes to mind.
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