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Yeah, there’s been some weird emails going around about ice time lately. I’m not even sure where these decisions are coming from as I’m on the committee and haven’t heard a thing apart from via my team manager and even he didn’t seem to know what was going on or make any sense of it!?
Ryan,
"Janey":23fjyuff wrote:Wanna here a funny joke?
A student Paying 250 bucks to be part of womens Dunedin ice hockey team and what ever it costs for them to be in the SIHL as well as 250 bucks for a DIHL team …
esspecially when you course requires you on placement for 8 weeks at the end of the year and 3 weeks in the middle….
just thought I might complain about my wee issues…. and i thought field hockey was dear!…[/quote:23fjyuff]If your DIHL team is charging you $250 then call the police.
I presume $250 includes your SIHL beasts games.
"Kyle":p843ph0r wrote:I presume $250 includes your SIHL beasts games.[/quote:p843ph0r]Not that I’m aware of. I think this is the cost to attend SNC practice from now on. A bizarre email has been circulating round saying that we need to pay at least $100 within four days for our practices. The email didn’t make much sense to me though and I’m not sure where it came from.
Ryan,
Ah, nothing to do with DIHL then, that’s good.
That was always going to be happening at some stage. People should be paying in bulk advance for practices I believe is the policy. The prems had to shell out a significant amount of money recently I believe.
I’m still waiting on the peewees one to turn up, but thankfully that’s going to be much cheaper.
Alrighty. B Grade week 4.
We’ve finished the first round, and the teams are starting to rank up. Kings have come through the pack, and are well-improved over last year. Three victories from three games. Beasts are nicely lodged in second place, with a couple of wins. Johnnies and Bears are tussling on third equal – that draw last week hasn’t resolved anything. The teams have all had time to settle in and sort out what they’re doing, it’s heading to the business end of the league, things should settle down for some good hockey.
First up, Beasts taking on JMs. Beasts took this game first up, they’ll be looking for a solid repeat performance to lock them into the top half of the table. Johnnies were disappointed with their first up game – they started well enough, with a couple of early goals, but fell away after that and let the Beasts get back into it and overtake them. They’ll be fired up this week though, and know that they must win this game if they want to be in the final in three weeks. A couple of their guys played in the A grade game on Tuesday, which is only going to be good for them now they’re playing back down – watch for them to be fired up and skating fast. Beasts will be looking to get back on track after falling over a bit last week against Kings. If they get their lines working right, and work hard, they’re going to be hard to beat. Kyle’s pick: Beasts 5-4 – close match, but Beasts take it out in the end.
Bears vs Kings. Bears went down 5-0 in this matchup first time around. They’re a better team now, and will be hoping to get closer. Key for Bears – do something that Beasts failed to do last week, shut down Harrison King, who’s playing well and getting a lot of non-assisted goals, particularly from faceoffs. Key for Kings – they’ve been playing well, so keeping on a roll is the key for them. Good defence, solid offence, there’s some pacey skaters on the team and they’re looking to lock in that finals spot tonight, a couple of weeks early. My pick – 6-2 to Kings.
Remember, games start at 7pm and 8:10 pm from now on, but the timetable hasn’t changed from the original schedule, it’s just later.
Edit by Ryan – DIHL B-grade schedule: [url:399teheh]http://www.dunedinicehockey.co.nz/documents/dihlscheduleautumn07.pdf[/url:399teheh]
"Kyle":19nwne5p wrote:Alrighty. B Grade week 4.First up, Beasts taking on JMs. Kyle’s pick: Beasts 5-4 – close match, but Beasts take it out in the end.[/quote:19nwne5p]
Ooh, close game. It finished up 3-3, with both teams putting on some big offence in the final minutes to try and get the gamewinner with no luck. Johnies will be regretting letting Beasts get a goal in the first period where goalkeeper Leask came out to play the puck and dumped it right in the high slot for Li to score. Bit of niggle in the game still, couple of late penalties.
"Kyle":19nwne5p wrote:Bears vs Kings. My pick – 6-2 to Kings.[/quote:19nwne5p]5-0 to Kings again. Hellyer at home stick in bed, so I played for Bears to help them out. Kings was too strong all over the ice, making some good shots and spreading the goals around. Bears only able to put on five shots, really struggling to get it into the zone and take decent shots on net. Some silliness at the end from Kings where goalie and a player swapped sticks. Arrogance isn’t nice boys, remember to show respect for the other team. No goal for King on the scoresheet, but I thought he got one.
Week 2 of A grade.
Alright, the teams should be working the kinks out and starting to learn each other’s names now. The hockey should settle down and pick up a little hopefully as well.
Johnnies OB vs Bullfrogs. Johnnies got a right pasting last week from a unrepentant Phantoms team showing no mercy. They’re sending in a better lineup this week however, with Matt Weir on board, and we’ve brought in Steve Jackson to help them out. Jackson and Bode should be showing the team good leadership and expect them to play better tonight. Bullfrogs played well to get a good win last week, but were missing a couple of good players. If Bulling and Phipps-Black (the younger) turn up tonight, they’ll be a strong team and look for them to skate fast and take it to Johnnies. My pick: Bullfrogs, 5-1.
Sharks vs Phantoms. This will be an interesting game. Phantoms clocked up some major points last week, but this week should give a better indication of the relative strengths of both teams. Sharks are as strong as Phantoms on paper, having added Wilson and Smith to their lineup. If they can get enough shots on goalie Metzger, who hasn’t played much hockey recently that I know of, they’ll be in with a good shot, as long as their defense can shut down the Phantom goal-scorers, which is easier said than done. My pick. I think it’ll be close until the last couple of minutes, finishing 4-2 to Phantoms.
"Kyle":2v7e67ef wrote:Johnnies OB vs Bullfrogs. My pick: Bullfrogs, 5-1.[/quote:2v7e67ef]Ooh, Bullfrogs turn up with a seriously short line. No Noble, no Honore, no Kibbelwhite. Six skaters is a hard way to play hockey, and the ‘frogs just couldn’t get top intensity due to lack of energy. This was a good game, it was locked up at 2-2 at the end of the 2nd period, but Johnnies got a goal in the third with a nice slapshot unsighted by Schuck. Johnnies looked twice the team they did last week, Jackson added stability and Weir some attacking flair. Bullfrogs didn’t really get enough shots on net to expect to score many more than two, and will need to address their short lineup.
"Kyle":2v7e67ef wrote:Sharks vs Phantoms. My pick. I think it’ll be close until the last couple of minutes, finishing 4-2 to Phantoms.[/quote:2v7e67ef]Another close game – 3-2 to Phantoms, on a late goal to Christos. Phantoms were also pretty short – 7 skaters (pah! 7? That’s nothing). A nice goal to Wick off a couple of assists early on set them up, before Sharks came back with a couple of goals to take the lead, before Phantoms came on stronger in the last period. Sharks team is getting seriously large, with Neil being added to the lineup tonight – four extra players since the rosters were sent out. It’s enough to make an organiser pull his hair out, particularly when other teams are short.
There was a bit of discussion of refereeing calls in this game. We got one wrong, but it didn’t affect the game at all.
Michael was discussing with Stefan after the game whether or not intentional icing in the last couple of minutes could be called ‘delay of game’. I can’t find it in the case book, but perhaps Michael will find the reference.
There was also a bizarre incident when a Phantoms player shot on goal from the neutral zone, and it (I understand) went in. Both the referees were actually watching an offside Phantoms player leaving the bench. Neither of us saw the puck go in, and when I looked back, at least, a Sharks player was collecting the puck and everyone was standing around waiting for one of us to blow the whistle. The game continued, because neither of us had seen it go in.
So my interpretation:
1. We need goal judges for these games! The club has been discussing not having these, but they’re pretty important, but only occasionally. I actually went and arranged goal judges, but they didn’t seem to make it to the goal-judging area.
2. A phantoms player was offside, the phantoms shot therefore was an intentional offside, and should have gone back down to the phantoms low spot. That was what we referees missed doing.
3. The goal wouldn’t have been allowed had we seen it, because the play was offside.Good to see the competition between the teams being really close, and both games being up for grabs right until the buzzer.
"Kyle":3rdb9i7p wrote:Michael was discussing with Stefan after the game whether or not intentional icing in the last couple of minutes could be called ‘delay of game’. I can’t find it in the case book, but perhaps Michael will find the reference.[/quote:3rdb9i7p][b:3rdb9i7p]My highly uneducated guess on the situation:[/b:3rdb9i7p]
I don’t think the rules/casebooks take running-time games into account – although I could be entirely wrong. Intentional icing would only be a problem in running time games so I’m not sure you’re going to find a rule on this in there. If I’m right, then we probably need to add another rule into the DIHA Rule Book to cover stuff like this.Ryan,
PS: Finding goal judges is a pain in the backside.
I would be willing to do goal judging occaisionally, but only on nights when I already have hockey, as I can’t afford to devote any additional evenings to sport.
However, I don’t want to be a goal judge badly enough to organise myself, so somebody would have to tell me when to turn up, what to do, how to tie my shoes etc etc
"Ryan":265v0pwi wrote:"Kyle":265v0pwi wrote:Michael was discussing with Stefan after the game whether or not intentional icing in the last couple of minutes could be called ‘delay of game’. I can’t find it in the case book, but perhaps Michael will find the reference.[/quote:265v0pwi][b:265v0pwi]My highly uneducated guess on the situation:[/b:265v0pwi]
I don’t think the rules/casebooks take running-time games into account – although I could be entirely wrong. Intentional icing would only be a problem in running time games so I’m not sure you’re going to find a rule on this in there. If I’m right, then we probably need to add another rule into the DIHA Rule Book to cover stuff like this.Ryan,
PS: Finding goal judges is a pain in the backside.
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Yeah that’s a good point.
I’ve never heard of it being called in any game that I’ve played in. I remember John Thomsen getting called for it at varsity games in inline hockey one year, but that was when he hit the puck out of the rink.
I guess I’d regard icing as a normal part of the game. Would you call a delay of game penalty if someone was blatantly offside and using that to slow the running time game down?
"Chris":3jespqrx wrote:I would be willing to do goal judging occaisionally, but only on nights when I already have hockey, as I can’t afford to devote any additional evenings to sport.However, I don’t want to be a goal judge badly enough to organise myself, so somebody would have to tell me when to turn up, what to do, how to tie my shoes etc etc
[/quote:3jespqrx]Well, pick the game that you’re not playing on Sunday night, and go stand at either end next to the buzzer. If the puck goes over the line and into the net, push the buzzer. If the referee ever needs to talk to you, they’ll do so.
It’s also probably the best place to watch the game at our rink, outside of the scorebox. You don’t get a great view of the other end of the rink, but you get the best view of your own end. It’s great for watching breakaways and big goalie saves.
We’ve had games ‘possibly’ decided by lack of a goal judge and a referee making a very disputed call before. If players want to avoid that happening to them when they’re out on the ice, the only way to fix it is to turn up when they’re not playing and do the job. That applies to spectators as well – if you’re watching a game and there’s no one goal judging, put it on yourself to go do the job.
Is there any chance that there are spare monetary funds left over from the dihl organising, thats some peso’s could be thrown joes way that he cold snap just a few cheeky/professional shots of the games he wasnt in? tall order maybe, probably for joe himself also, considering he would eitha have just finished a game or be about to play, but yeah
Any spare money from the dihl, is paying for Jenel to turn up on Thursday night and teach you to play hockey.
Sadly, unless anyone is feeling rich, we have to rely on Joe’s goodwill at this stage I suspect.
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