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[float=right][attach=#3][/float]The 70th Erewhon Cup is to be held on July 20-22. This year the event is being held at the brand new Winter Park Lake Tekapo http://www.winterpark.co.nz/%5B/url:2fsiupud%5D.
Attached is an invite letter sent to the various ice hockey clubs, I’m not sure if they’ll accept non-club entries or not, although if you want to field a team I doubt the DIHA will mind you entering via them.
[float=right][attach=#2][/float]Does anyone know what the rules are for contact this year? Traditionally it has always been mid-ice checking, but no checking within 2 m of the boards, but last year it was non-checking.
Thanks to Susan Dale for the info and photos
” title=”Smiley” />Ryan,
Man, that ice looks really good. I think Graham had something to do with the design of the rink – if so good job Graham.
Last year the checking rules were a problem. It’s my understanding that the rules of the cup are mid-ice checking. We refused to play mid-ice checking when Queenstown brought it up, and so all the games were non-checking. There’s also the fact that there was a whole team of female players – the southern womens team – there.
It’d be good if someone gave a definitive on the rules. I might be keen to go up for it again, as it was a good weekend, but not if it’s going to be checking.
The beasts are intending to field a team for it, but i doubt we will go if it is checking… as we have 2 female players in our team, as well as half the team don’t know how to play checking hockey.
That ice looks pretty cool tho, is it just one rink or is ther provisions for another 1?
"Jack":16u68mpv wrote:as we have 2 female players in our team, as well as half the team don’t know how to play checking hockey.[/quote:16u68mpv]Well it shouldn’t matter if you have female players on your team so that’s a moot point IMO.
I’ll email Peter Anderson, point him towards this forum topic and hopefully he’ll be able to fill us in on the details in regards to contact.
"Jack":16u68mpv wrote:That ice looks pretty cool tho, is it just one rink or is ther provisions for another 1?[/quote:16u68mpv]Nope, just one rink. There used to be two rinks there, one 100 m x 50 m monster and a teeny weeny one. But I doubt he’s intending to build another one. A roof on the current one would probably be a more important priority I imagine.
Ryan,
Yeah I’d imagine that if you have females you’re in an ideal situation, as you can just point to them and say ‘sorry we can’t play checking’.
I’d be keen to go, but I think my car has eaten up my budget for that sort of thing for the next couple of months.
My understanding is that the games will be non checking until the final. Should the beasts reach the semi finals (unlikely) you can always do what the old bastards (quite a famous team ) did last year and go easy on the young youngs ( quite a flakey, immature team ) and let them through to the final so they could get shoved around by queenstown.
"leftright":nf3m5vb7 wrote:Should the beasts reach the semi finals (unlikely)[/quote:nf3m5vb7]Pfft! The mighty Beasts are planning to demolish all opposition that comes our way
” title=”Tongue” />Ryan,
When ryan, says demolish, i think he means we’re gonna throw marshmellows and jelly beans at them and hope they die of diabetic atack
” title=”Cheesy” />I received the following set of rules for the Erewhon Cup from Graeme Glass (NZIHF president), they’re actually from 2004, but he is suggesting them as suitable for the 2007 event. Erm, I’m not sure these are official, but I’m posting them anyway … Erewhon Cup Rules 2004 »[/url:1owhlb5v]
Hopefully Peter Anderson can confirm.
Ryan,
[quote:3p1y8r3b]If the semi-finals and FINAL are played on a rink with high boards full contact shall be
permitted, otherwise mid-ice contact only will be played.[/quote:3p1y8r3b]I’m guessing the assumption from this is that the non semi-finals and finals will be non-checking as per what leftright said.
Ryan,
[float=right][img width=480 height=360]http://www.dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=579.0;attach=115;image[/img][/float][quote:1wckxnjq]1/ Each game shall consist of 3 periods of 15 minutes running time. The breaks between periods shall be no more than 2 minutes long. A 5 minute on ice warm-up shall be allowed for.
2/ All games will be played under the current rules of the International Ice Hockey Federation unless specified in this document.
3/ All Clubs competing must be financial members of the Southern Ice Hockey League and conform to its Constitution.
4/ All players shall be financial members of their Club and of the New Zealand Ice Hockey Federation.
5/ No player is to play for more than 1 Club in the EREWHON CUP competition.
6/ Each team may only dress to play, 10 players and 1 goalie for each game. [/quote:1wckxnjq]
(2) I take back what I said, women are indeed not allowed to compete in the Erewhon Cup, or at least not in the semi-finals and finals (assuming these rules are what they’re following).
(3) No CIHA teams
” title=”Sad” />(5) So Dunedin players could form two teams from the same pool of players!? That’s a little weird.
(6) Important information! Particular for the Beasts who I’m assuming would have turned up with a lot more than 11 players!
Ryan,
"Ryan":idpyzpv3 wrote:[quote:idpyzpv3]If the semi-finals and FINAL are played on a rink with high boards full contact shall be
permitted, otherwise mid-ice contact only will be played.[/quote:idpyzpv3]I’m guessing the assumption from this is that the non semi-finals and finals will be non-checking as per what leftright said.
Ryan,
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No, read all of rule 15:
15/ All of the elimination round games to be mid-ice contact only.
If the semi-finals and FINAL are played on a rink with high boards full contact shall be
permitted, otherwise mid-ice contact only will be played.When they say elimination, I think that means ‘pool games’. So all games are mid-ice contact, semi-finals and finals are full contact, if the boards are high (I think that means standard boards, not the knee high boards that some ice rinks have).
Hmmm, is pool play considered an elimination round?
I mean at the end some teams maybe eliminated, but losing a game doesn’t guaranttee elimination, which would be the case in semi or final.I was under the impression the final is definately no question, non-negotiable contact, (phil told me he brought up at SIHL meeting the prospect of it not being that way and he was voted down)
But the other rounds are more flexible, especially since southern women are sending a team.
You played in the tournament Kyle last year, what were your games contact or non-contact?
Yeah, I think when it says elimination round, it’s just a funny name for pool play. There’s only pool play and then semi-finals and finals, so it must be referring to that.
All games last year were non-contact, but the Queenstown team that won it was trying to make some games mid-ice checking. They tried to get it in our pool game against them, and we said no. Then they tried again in the final against the other Dunedin team and they also said no. The ref – I think it was Ritchie from Gore – confirmed that it was mid-ice contact, but we basically refused to play.
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