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"Ryan":hu3zenf2 wrote:Well one good thing came out of this. I learned that the ‘skating on the blue line’ concept only applies if the puck wasn’t already over the blue line. My goal wasn’t allowed because of it
” title=”Sad” /> I always thought you weren’t off-side as long as you have at least a foot on the blue line – oh well, lesson learned.
[/quote:hu3zenf2]Who told you that?
The rule is 450b:
b) The determining factors in deciding an offside are:
1. The players’ skates position – player is offside when both skates are completely
over the blue line in his attacking zone before the puck completely crosses
the line,
2. The puck position – the puck shall have completely crossed the blue line into
the attacking zone.If you have a skate touching the blue line, you’re onside.
Though I thought you were well offside, if yours was the shot when Stefan was standing in front of the net and the whistle went off before the puck went in. By about a foot.
"Kyle":3ei23i7r wrote:Though I thought you were well offside, if yours was the shot when Stefan was standing in front of the net and the whistle went off before the puck went in. By about a foot.[/quote:3ei23i7r]My right foot was definitely over the blue line, but I think my left foot may have brushed on to it, but it definitely didn’t go over. Players on the bench reckoned my left foot didn’t even touch the blue line though, but I’m not 100% sure myself as I was just concentrating on what I was doing and assumed I could skate on the blue line. The puck was definitely out by at least a foot, probably more though.
Ryan,
The way you explained it means you were definitly onside when you still have one skate on the blue line as the puck crosses over the blue line into the zone. What the ref saw may have been different.
[b:3vmjri8h]Just to reiterate here coz I’m not sure it’s obvious from my above post:[/b:3vmjri8h]
I was in the zone initially, then headed back up to the blue line, crossed one foot plus the puck over it and my other foot may have crossed on to the blue line but not over it and then I went back in.This isn’t just a case of me skating the puck in initially, members of my own team were in the zone at the time. So the question is really “what constitutes leaving the zone”, rather than “what constitutes an off-side”.
Ryan,
My understanding is if you are coming from inside the zone, you have to cross the blue line on the neutral zone side, with one foot, going onto the line isn’t enough to consider yourself re-onside.
The way I think about it, not that I have to much being stuck in my own little blue area all the time, is which ever side you are approaching you have to cross the far side of the blue line to enter/exit depending on what way you are approaching from
Hence entering you can hang on the blue line, and be fine.
But exiting you have to get a foot back into the neutral zone before you can reenter"Azzy77":21jsjct5 wrote:My understanding is if you are coming from inside the zone, you have to cross the blue line on the neutral zone side, with one foot, going onto the line isn’t enough to consider yourself re-onside.The way I think about it, not that I have to much being stuck in my own little blue area all the time, is which ever side you are approaching you have to cross the far side of the blue line to enter/exit depending on what way you are approaching from
Hence entering you can hang on the blue line, and be fine.
But exiting you have to get a foot back into the neutral zone before you can reenter
[/quote:21jsjct5]Er, I’m not sure I follow that. So was I in the wrong or in the right?
Ryan,
Straight to the point. If the puck crosses the blue line completely it is considered off side no matter where your feet are at the time.
But lets not worry, because if the whistle has not gone, i would have made an amazing kick save anyway, so it would not have been a goal! Now everyone can sleep easy tonight! I just let the puck go in to try get a penalty from it haha. Na seriously tho it was a good shot Ryan, I thort u lifted ur back foot when your front foot was over the blueline anyway thats why they called it, could be wrong, might not even be talking about what u are talking about, just thort id blend in a bit and throw my 125 rupees in.
Peace ya’ll
"rookie#19":8a46zcqf wrote:I thort u lifted ur back foot when your front foot was over the blueline anyway[/quote:8a46zcqf]That’s quite possible/probably.
Ryan,
"Azzy77":24itfvjt wrote:My understanding is if you are coming from inside the zone, you have to cross the blue line on the neutral zone side, with one foot, going onto the line isn’t enough to consider yourself re-onside.The way I think about it, not that I have to much being stuck in my own little blue area all the time, is which ever side you are approaching you have to cross the far side of the blue line to enter/exit depending on what way you are approaching from
Hence entering you can hang on the blue line, and be fine.
But exiting you have to get a foot back into the neutral zone before you can reenter
[/quote:24itfvjt]No that’s not right, the story with the puck crossing the blue line is not the same as skates.
With the puck, it’s not until the puck goes completely over the blue line that it enters that zone. Skates are different.
If it’s a delayed offside, then as soon as a skate touches the line, you’re onside.
If you’re going into the zone, it’s as soon as both of your skates are no longer touching the blue line that you’re in the zone.
For skates, the blue line is neutral zone, no matter what side you’re coming from, the entire blue line is neutral. So to go to the neutral zone, you just have to ‘skate the line’ – hence the phrase.
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