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Bahahahah, that was pretty good I have to admit vince, I got one of those sniggers going you know the trying to stop yourself laughing but failing..
I hope these dry suits stop you smelling?
No doubt its a fantastic idea, a couple of things tho, presumbably the ice berg is not flat, so won’t the puck just keep sliding off the edge?
Are you going to take nets? If someone is a bit wayward with their shot won’t the puck head out to sea?
Back to the slope issue, won’t people have to skate just to keep sliding off the end?
If you are picked up by a japanese whaling vessel? Will keith pay for the flight back from tokyo?To answer ALL your questions.
Firstly Dave Cull has a book out on ice bergs photoes from Stephen Jaquiery
I have talked to both the pilot and John Perriam, they all say this.
The ice berg does NOT roll like a ship NOR GO UP AND DOWN it is very big and stable in the water as per wave.
The surface is like glass and you can skate on it. it is NOT pressed snow nor bubble surface IT IS VERY SMOOTH AND FLAT.
I have many photoes to show you if you want.
Some ice bergs are NOT flat but many are as flat as a billard table the last ones some were.It depends on which place they come from and what wind action has done to them. our Dunedin ones were mostly FLAT TOP.
NETS; I will make these will be PVC and very light to take and fold down as space on the copter is limited also weight too.
The size of the ice berg some are klms long but the ones here were several hundred meters long.THE ONE WHICH HAS JUST BROKEN OFF LAST MONTH IS 96 klms long and 37 klms wide.
THE PUCK just like playing on Manoburn Dam some do go over the side but
not a problem for us and the game we can take a few pucks.
The game is only 5 mins long as we will be shit-ing our pants most of the time and the reason is;
All the time noises like thunder and cracking sound this happens many who visited the ice berg did not know this but bits are falling off ALL THE TIME so
that is par for coarse.
THE REAL DANGER IS ROLL OVER.
the bottom through melting makes the bottom light and they roll over as Ryans pics.
this happens not every day once in a while the thing is they are not sure when
so it is the real risk.
If this happens not amount of gear will protect you as thousands of tons and
very cold water greets you. IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET with people on it.
Hundreds of people visited the last ice bergs and many landed on them. ALL SAID THEY WILL REMEMBER IT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES and craped their
pants so thats where the smell is.
The smell It was a play on miss spelling Eion Edgar’s name.
JAPAN I lived their 5 years in the 70,s speak the lingo so I will come too any time it is my favourite country and I know people over their very high up in the news paper business so we can all be on TV there too crapped pants and all.
keith"keith":19rhm9y4 wrote:The ice berg does NOT roll like a ship NOR GO UP AND DOWN it is very big and stable in the water as per wave.
THE REAL DANGER IS ROLL OVER.
the bottom through melting makes the bottom light and they roll over as Ryans pics.[/quote:19rhm9y4]
ummmm???
Im reasoning a flat iceberg is far less likely to roll over than a top heavy non skatable iceberg.
I can say that safely having seen icebrg pictures whilst sitting at my dining tableHi Keith
I’ld go.
Some guesswork on bergs: The tall ones, that calve off thick glaciers which end at the sea, won’t have significant flat surfaces to begin with and will probably roll over relatively frequently. The bergs that form when ice shelves break up are more raft-like, at least initially. They will need to break into much smaller pieces before losing stability and beginning to roll. Any bergs that make it to Dunedin will be these ice shelf bergs, but they could easily be non-tabular and regular rollers by the time they get here.
I’m not sure how often we will have bergs reaching us – it was a massive break off that eventually produced the small chunks that reached us in 2006, 11,000 sq kms (bigger than the one you mention Keith?), and it took 4 years for it to break up and have bits reach us.
The ice will be fresh water – to produce significant ice shelf thickness, massive amounts of snow has to compress on top of any sea-ice. I am quite prepared to believe that any ice that reaches us will be hard and smooth by the time it gets here. As you say Keith – the action of wind, rain, melt and refreeze will have removed any poorly compressed snow long ago and smoothed it off.
But it will still be a crap-shoot as to whether any berg that makes it this far will present a big enough flat surface. And I think the chances of another berg visit might be small. (NIWA says bergs were last seen off the NZ mainland, also from Dunedin, in 1931.) Happy to be proved wrong though, and maybe things are warming up.
Wiki says the “US National Ice Centre” tracks any Antarctic berg longer than 20km. Someone with a faster connection than me could see if they will tell us of any possible visit candidates.
Hay guys at worst we can make our own ice berg as they did in Wellington a few months ago I can suppy some super-glide and we can do it ourselves eh?
Polyfoam one and hard top superglide synthetic ice suface.
As for the comments sbove, yeah that is right there is one at that size broke of the shelf one month ago, my personal view is there are more going passed than NIWA knows about I think it is a new thing to know, what with the new advances in weather collection data but I understand that ice bergs floating around are more common than the powers to be think.
They only register ones that are big so many smaller ones don’t get a look in. THEY NAME AND NUMBER THEM ALL over a certain size.
the last ones were A43a and B15a
The surface is good I have pictures Dave Cull my old flat mate has made a book it includes John sharing the sheep I have taked to them all the surface on the last one was ok to skate on.
It is very noisey as bits break off all the time so going near the edge is not on the agenda. Roll over is the biggest problem but that happens but not every day according to my data.
Still it is something that may or may not happen I just thought it is an idea to explore and have ready if it comes again.
KeithHmmm, I like this idea, I could probably manage to get a team from Chch, and a TV3 cameraman friend would defiantly be interested in filming it. I will be following this thread with interest…
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