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October 22, 2009 at 4:13 am #14599Azzy77Moderator
Mr Dunedin if you are who I think you are, and its not keith…So stop signing off as such….I don’t think you will be playing next weeks due to you being kicked out this weeks game….
October 22, 2009 at 4:22 am #14600rookie19MemberMr Dunedin, you are mean.. however something tells me you still owe me a big mac combo, so hurry and pay up! Youv avoided paying me for ages, and im getting hungry..
I know it will be hard for you to part with such a luscious burger, and juicy medium fries along with a sundae upgrade, but face the facts, you have lost way too many bets and stefs gonna start cutting fingers…
October 22, 2009 at 4:27 am #14601thirteenMemberstefs gotta cut other peoples fingers coz his are too fat!
October 22, 2009 at 5:01 am #14602ReganMemberYeah Mr Dunedin, are you even allowed to play this week?
October 22, 2009 at 5:41 am #14603ActiveMemberAnd this Mr Dunedin got kicked out of the game? Just asking!
October 22, 2009 at 6:31 am #14604thirteenMemberGO SOUTHLAND!!!
October 22, 2009 at 6:36 am #14605Hockey_GoonMember"vpatrol":2b958fw3 wrote:"Hockey_Goon":2b958fw3 wrote:Kyle im sick of yourtrying to pussy up hockey it ridicoulus. You should be playing darts or something like [u:2b958fw3]thirteen[/u:2b958fw3] said if two player drop the gloves and go at it hard and change the game causae your not man enough to play it the way it was inteeded. Its an insult to the history of the game! [/quote:2b958fw3]
Not every player needs to or wants to fight. Gretzky fought once in 20 plus years and it looked liked a spastic swinging of arms. Was he not man enough to fight? Was every great player to not fight simply not man enough? garbage. If Kyle doesn’t want to fight in a game, nothing wrong with that. There are maybe 2 or 3 people on this forum who have actually been in a hockey fight. Too many people being tough guys on the ice and on the forum! I don’t want to see fights all game long. I’d rather the 60 minutes not include anything that starts a fight. I’d rather play hockey but if its required, ok. Huge difference!
[/quote:2b958fw3]Yes VPatrol i completely agree with you. I understand if you are not a fighter and that’s OK but im saying that im sick of Kyle trying to get rid of it in NZ Hockey and he must reliazie the importance of it in certain situations. Like you say i to would be happy to 60 minutes of clean hard fought Hockey with no fighting.
October 22, 2009 at 6:39 am #14606Hockey_GoonMemberMr Dunedin was not playing on Tuesday or Wednesday for that matter.
October 22, 2009 at 7:03 am #14607KyleMember"Hockey_Goon":1cznwkic wrote:Yes VPatrol i completely agree with you. I understand if you are not a fighter and that’s OK but im saying that im sick of Kyle trying to get rid of it in NZ Hockey and he must reliazie the importance of it in certain situations. Like you say i to would be happy to 60 minutes of clean hard fought Hockey with no fighting.
[/quote:1cznwkic]I’m not getting rid of anything. If people fight then they’ll get game misconducts as the rules say. I’m just predicting that this is going to fade out of hockey over the next few decades, and that’s something I’m entirely happy with.
October 22, 2009 at 7:12 am #14608AnonymousInactivehaha you fools have no idea who i am thank you, i am merely a spectator and do not play in the summer dihl. No roookie 13 i dont owe shit……
haha you guys will never find out who i am cause you are all, especially you blake. October 22, 2009 at 7:16 am #14609imported_RyanMembermrdunedin will not be bothering us anymore.
October 22, 2009 at 7:22 am #14610Hockey_GoonMemberDon’t think you can silence mr dunedin he will return.
October 22, 2009 at 7:25 am #14611Hockey_GoonMember"Regan":2g7u1wh0 wrote:Yeah Mr Dunedin, are you even allowed to play this week?
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Don’t act like you know Mrdunedin he wouldn’t waste his time on u.October 22, 2009 at 7:29 am #14612KyleMember"Azzy77":10blethm wrote:When they “cleaned up” rugby they destroyed it. When Rugby went professional it died.
The biggest area in Rugby they cleaned up was no rucking.
[/quote:10blethm]Actually the removal of rucking from the game and professionalism aren’t tied together at all. Rugby went professional in 1995, rucking still existed into this millenium. Here’s SST writer Richard Boock’s column on rucking (http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opin … -off-thugs):
[quote:10blethm]Rucking, long celebrated as the traditional New Zealand method for winning possession at the breakdown, has also doubled as the main theatre of operations for those oafs attracted to the game by the promise of barely-contained violence. High profile victims of the approach include Welshman JPR Williams, opened up by All Black studs at Bridgend in 1978, and Englishman Phil de Glanville, sliced apart by New Zealand forwards in 1993.
As an excuse for trampling over anyone in the vicinity of the tackled ball area with no regard for safety, rucking was one of the rugby thug’s most dependable alibis. I can still remember, in the early 1990s, the sight of Otago flanker Phil Young following a provincial match against Waikato in Hamilton; the loosie virtually unrecognisable after a deranged Mooloo forward had tap-danced on his face. The scariest part? It wasn’t an uncommon occurrence.
People can dream all they like about an imaginary time when rugby players used to ruck properly. Truth is, the further back you look, the worse the brutality. If it wasn’t for the advent of television and video scrutiny, the game would still be a favourite haunt for the unhinged and the reprobate. And it’s not as if rucking’s unheard of anymore. Fullback Luke Wilson needed 130 stitches and 4 1/2 hours of surgery last week after being “rucked” in a South Otago club game.
That the rest of the rugby world is now unanimously opposed to the practice (in anything but the most sanitised form) shouldn’t come as a big surprise to anyone, least of all Kiwis. New Zealand only has itself to blame for the perception that rucking is nothing but a euphemism for malicious trampling, stamping and kicking. To gasp aloud now about a claimed misconception is to ignore the manner in which it has been abused by so many of our countrymen.[/quote:10blethm]
Comparisons between rucking in rugby and fighting in hockey are quite apt actually. You get the same justification for it (doesn’t hurt anyone), which is clearly true for neither rugby not fighting in hockey. In rugby they changed the rules to penalise players holding onto the ball rather than having the opposing team being allowed to ruck them. The potential is there for the same thing in ice hockey. If you look at NHL fights, they’re not like the fights that we have here, where people get frustrated and explode, they’re normally conscious decisions by teams to fight. Changing the rules could squish that if the league wanted to.
October 22, 2009 at 7:41 am #14613Hockey_GoonMemberWhy would the league want to get rid of fighting.
How about Max Talbot fighting Carcillo in the playoffs completly changed the momentum of the series, would you realy want to get rid of that?
If you want to see a true Hockey player have a look at Gary Roberts tough as nails and would always stick up for his teammates wether they were 4th liners or allstars! -
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