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My biggest thing about moving up from being a beginner to actually playing hockey is skating speed. I remember that three team tournament you organised at the Big Chill in 2002 – that was the first time that I realised that I could skate fast enough to get around people, and I racked up a bunch of goals. You simply can’t play hockey if you can’t skate fast, it’s like trying to play soccer by only walking when everyone else is running.
I’m not aware of the beginners session doing much work on skating speed – certainly not in the 10 or so times I’ve been there. My biggest comment that I make to people on Sunday nights is that they need to bend their legs when they skate. They do puck handling and skating through cones, but a lot of hockey is picking up off a mark, skating hard and fast, and then stopping and doing the same thing back the other way. Only one person ever has the puck, and as often as not it’ll be the other team.
That’s what I would target those beginners with. Get them more towards that fast, knees bent, head forward skating style.
The beginners group often complains that they do way too much skating practise in what is a hockey session. A decent proportion (60% perhaps?) are attending actual skating lessons, the thing is though that they are going to figure skating lessons which is all good and well, but doesn’t teach them much about raw speed. I was trying to emphasise that to some of them a while back, but quite rightly they tend to pay more attention to what Deanna says which seems to be to concentrate on the fancy stuff and leave the speed till later.
But yeah I agree. I’m fairly certain I could skate faster than most of the current beginners crop when I first started, albeit I couldn’t do the fancy stuff so well. But speed wins over fancy stuff almost every time, particularly if you can combine the speed with an ability to stop at high speed as well.
Ryan,
[quote:36pq8mgq]Last night I line/refed the first game with sean, are there actually suppose to be set refs comming each week?[/quote:36pq8mgq]
Yep, the refs/linesman are organised by the club. Except for the first week of the B-grade when Phil left for a few days and I sourced some refs.
Ryan,
Stats for the second round of the DIHL A and B-grades now available for download
http://www.dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi/docum … ring06.pdf
Ryan,
[quote:211wpxda][quote:211wpxda]Last night I line/refed the first game with sean, are there actually suppose to be set refs comming each week?[/quote:211wpxda]
Yep, the refs/linesman are organised by the club. Except for the first week of the B-grade when Phil left for a few days and I sourced some refs.
Ryan,[/quote:211wpxda]
Yes, Phil emailed me on Wednesday and said he had refs covered. His email said Shaun was going to do all the games, and:
Blake is going to come down tonight anyway. I can’t be there as I’m teaching but will try to make the last game – which should also have Andre ready to ref.
If Blake wasn’t there, then let me know and I’ll chase it up with Phil.
If you did cover, you’re owed $10, so make sure you get it, or you get a free game on a Sunday night.
[b:cfvpm861]A Grade[/b:cfvpm861]
[quote:cfvpm861]SK8 vs Phantoms: My pick: Phantoms to take it, 4-2. Jackson, Smith, A. van Leeuwen, and King to net for Phantoms, J. van Leeuwen and Heyd to net for SK8.[/quote:cfvpm861]
Ouch. 3-0 to SK8. Phantoms got better as the game went on, shutting out the third period, but simply unable to put anything past Tony Pasco, who stopped all 12 shots. J. van Leeuwen and Wick net for SK8, who were just too good on the day. Phantoms really missed Smith as an extra attacking weapon.
[quote:cfvpm861]Stars vs Ducks: My pick: Ducks to take it out, 3-2. Sam, D. Sykes to net for Ducks, Lamb and Benda to net for Stars. Blackett to have a big last period in goal to see his team through.[/quote:cfvpm861]
Perfect pick here, 3-2 to Ducks. Sykes brothers put away three goals, and Stars only able to grab two. Blackett stops 21 of 23. That’s a damn fine prediction if I do say so myself.
[b:cfvpm861]B Grade[/b:cfvpm861]
[quote:cfvpm861]Kings vs Bears: Kings to take it 5-3.[/quote:cfvpm861]
Well I got the Kings score right, but Bears again struggle, unable to net on Wednesday. Kings pick up their first win, and Bears unfortunately look destined for the wooden spoon. Alexander Griffin with the big shutout.
[note to the statistician, Kings have won 1, lost 1, the stats say they’ve won 2]
[quote:cfvpm861]OBHS vs Beasts: Final score, 4 – 1 to Beasts.[/quote:cfvpm861]
Beasts finish well ahead of the line, 6-1 over the ‘Boys. All six goals spread around, but no assists – where’s the passing in the B grade?
[quote:cfvpm861]John McGlashan vs Bullfrogs: I’m calling it a draw, at 2-2.[/quote:cfvpm861]
Woah. And blowout of the week goes to Johnnies, who rack up 12 goals to a solitary 1 goal from the ‘frogs. Bullfrogs really struggle against some top offense, McLean knocks in 7 goals in one game. A prospective A grader possibly? Bullfrogs only able to put 5 shots on the opposition goalie, so no chance of winning there.
well from a beginners persepctive I reccon Kyle is definatly right about learning to skate faster and how to stop….I also recon that having a few more drills would be benificial like ya know drills in which you are learning to pass (as that is lacking in our games) and put shots on the net and also be defence….that all helps!
But we have large numbers turning up to sunday night beginners now and so that makes it difficult to get us all doing drills and nt have half of us skating circles while we wait for the next turn. Maybe we could organise something along the lines of a session of power skating skills for beginners?? i know that means another coach and more commitment and stuff but just putting the idea out there.I didn’t see blake there in the first 2 games and the start of the 3rd, so I dunno if he bothered to turn up at all.
"Janey":l8xmqmxg wrote:drills in which you are learning to pass (as that is lacking in our games) and put shots on the neta session of power skating skills for beginners??[/quote:l8xmqmxg]
I have some ideas for drills which take up a lot more ice hence can accomodate more players at once and include passing, skating with the puck, fast skating etc., no defense at this stage but we could add that in too.
The powerskating lesson would be easy to organise, just sort out ice time with the club (via Joyce) and get Fanis or Deanna to coach. Ice time plus coaching should be under $200 I think, so if you have 20+ players then you’ll be set. You may be able to get a deal with Neil too, so that players pay per person rather than as a group, that way there’s no risk of coming up short on numbers.
Ryan,
A Grade
The competition lined up last week, with SK8 looking like to team to beat in the early stages.
Phantoms vs Ducks: Both teams are on one win, one loss, and will looking to take a clear second place at the middle of the competition. Phantoms didn’t look horrendous last week, but need to stiffen up and put better shots on in attack, and looked like they were really missing Sam Smith. Ducks played a close game and pulled it out on the Stars 3-2. The Phantoms gave the Stars a bit of a pounding in week one, and based on that, I’m picking Phantoms to knock over the Ducks, 4-2. King, Jackson and A. van Leeuwen to net for Phantoms, Duncan and Richard Sykes to get once each for the Ducks.
Stars vs SK8: Top vs bottom here, but I’m picking the Stars to start rolling and push SK8 hard here. There’s a bunch of good players in the Stars lineup. The problem they’ll face is that there’s no real weaknesses in the SK8 team – there’s a bunch of good solid players who play good D, so scoring on them is hard work. I’m gonna go out on a limb and call it 2-2 draw. van Leeuwen and Roth the younger to score for SK8, Lamb and Benda for Stars.
B Grade
These teams are starting to sort themselves out in a heirarchy. Top at present are Beasts and John McGlashan, and they meet this week, so that’s going to be very interesting to see. Johnnies apparently looked pretty solid all round handing out a real thrashing to the Bullfrogs last week, but Beasts have been playing two games a week for a while now, so they’re lining up to see who’s top dog.
Bullfrogs vs Kings: Bullfrogs got well and truly shown up last week, with some beginners being welcomed to hockey reality. Kings will be looking to keep them down so they can step up into third place. My pick – you can’t learn how to play hockey in a few weeks unfortunately, and some of those ‘frogs – their skating speed just isn’t fast enough. So Kings to take it, 4-2.
Beasts vs John McGlashan: This will be interesting to see. Johnnies showed they’re the team to beat last week, racking up a dozen goals in quick succession over 45 minutes. Beasts won’t go down anywhere near as easily as the Bullfrogs did however. They’ve got a good goalie, and some players who are pushing to play A grade next year. Well for Johnnies, there’s a couple of guys there that are racking up big points. Mark Kleigl got a hat trick in the first game, and Robert McLean stacked up a massive 7 goals last week. It’ll be interesting to see how they go if they face an offence which racks up some shots, because their goalies haven’t really been troubled enough in the first part of the season. My pick: Johnnies, 4-3.
Bears vs OBHS: Couple of teams looking to get their season firing. Bears have struggled a bit, as they’re a bit of a mishmash of a team, and their goalie is new (but getting better from what I saw on Sunday night). Their main problems seems to be that they’re making some shots, but they’re really not getting close enough to the net to make it difficult for the goalie. They’d probably be better making a few more passes and trying to get closer, and making less shots, but ones which have a chance of going in. OBs are a young team, but they’ll be looking to clock up their first win of the season. They’ve played the two best teams already, and struggled, but they’re onto the easier ones now, so look for some victories up ahead. OBs to take it 4-1.
I thought DIHL isn’t running because of the school holidays is next week? but I could be wrong.
Well, I have a cracked rib from the monday night so I’m not playing in the A grade games tonight, but my predictions.
A Grade
Phamtoms vs Ducks: Phantoms take it 3-1, with King and A. can Leeuwen scoring for ducks, and Duncan with his cracking blueline slap shot.
Stars vs SK8: Stars to take it 4-3, Stars has a solid all round team, but just don’t seem to put away enought goals, but from the experience gained from the last two games, i believe they should be able to tackle the solid Sk8 team.
B Grade
Bullfrogs vs Kings: Kings will be looking to take a win tonight to bolster their confidence as well as there stat sheet, but i believe the Bullfrogs will not go down as easily as they did last week. But i agree with kyle, a few weeks just isn’t enough and speed is the essence of this game, 5-1 to kings.
Beast vs John McGlashan: Now this will be the game to watch, being my old school against my current team. I’m even tempted to play with a cracked rib, though my doctor has warned me against it. Ne how, McGlashan has a solid line of scores, but seem to have trouble keeping up with some of the speedier players, it will be interesting to see if Michael and Jason from the Beast will be able to get through their defence. I say, 5-3 to the beasts
Bears vs OBHS: Two teams that have high potential to put away a decent amount of goals, but I think OBHS’s size will come in handy in this game, Them to take it 4-1.
Cracked rib, ouch! So how long will you be out of action? 6 weeks is normal for bruised ribs I think, Im’ not sure about cracked though, sounds worse than bruised ribs.
Ryan,
Pah. I got a rib bruised (I never got it checked out by the doctor, so I’m not sure if it was cracked, I suspect not), playing Blackdeath up in Nelson a couple of years ago. Guy boarded me from behind. Played a game later that day. And another one the next day.
I bet Jack’ll be back after the two week break. He’s no wussy 6 week standdown man.
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