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September 20, 2006 at 5:08 am #1529JackMember
Yea, theres no way I’m not playing the game against Jonnies tonight, Shit stick and Cracked and all. But i won’t be able to play ne “rough” games for 3 weeks or so.
Pretty gay really, I can’t even order another stick in at the moment cuz Diana is away in auckland…. I was even contemplating getting a defenders chest guard rather than that pidly small one I’m wearing atm….. ne how, I’ll be there 2night
September 20, 2006 at 5:47 am #1530rookie19MemberHey bro if your really desperate, the main auckland supplier of inline and ice gear is Darrin who works for ice and inline. You can give him an email at darrin@iceandinline.co.nz or jason@iceandinline for Jase Toovey. I guess Deanna gets her Easton stuff from Darrin, so hit him with an email and see if he can sort you out with a deal.
Peace. ” title=”Cheesy” />September 25, 2006 at 9:22 pm #1531KyleMember[quote:2j432m4s]Phantoms vs Ducks: I’m picking Phantoms to knock over the Ducks, 4-2. King, Jackson and A. van Leeuwen to net for Phantoms, Duncan and Richard Sykes to get once each for the Ducks.[/quote:2j432m4s]
Phantoms knock it over 7-2, including a second goal of the season for Matthews, off a lovely pass from Jackson. Five hole! Phantoms were really short on players, with van Leeuwen, Smith, Pielak-Jones, and Knyvett all not showing up. They pick up Hodge and Wheeler, and then for unknown reasons the referees swap over Sharpe to the Phantoms from the Ducks. Hodge and King quickly sort themselves out into one forward line, and absolutely murder the ducks, racking up six goals and three assists between them. Phantoms goalie Metzger on a shutout until the 2-3 period break when Hodge mentions the ‘S’ word. Thirty seconds later, Ducks score.
[quote:2j432m4s]Stars vs SK8: I’m gonna go out on a limb and call it 2-2 draw. van Leeuwen and Roth the younger to score for SK8, Lamb and Benda for Stars.[/quote:2j432m4s]
Oooh. Two weeks in a row, a perfect pick on the score. Picked a correct goal on both sides as well. This was a really rough game, with a total of 22 penalty minutes between the teams, and some really stupid stuff from some of the players – Hinson and Wick getting angsty for SK8, and Dobson coming in as a third man with a wee brain explosion. A little bit of grow-up-it’s-just-a-game juice wouldn’t have hurt.
[quote:2j432m4s]Bullfrogs vs Kings: Kings to take it, 4-2.[/quote:2j432m4s]
Kings rack up a pile of goals here, spreading them around four players. Bullfrogs only manage 3, and are looking like they’re going to be fighting it out for bottom two with OBHS and the Bears. B J Auton gets a hat trick. Bullfrogs only take 7 shots, which is their downfall – the Kings goalie is leaking, but you can’t win on 7 shots, when your own goalie is facing 33.
[quote:2j432m4s]Beasts vs John McGlashan: My pick: Johnnies, 4-3.[/quote:2j432m4s]
Big game, and obviously was worth watching, but Johnnies take it 3 – 1. Kliegl and Nailard net for Johnnies, Jason Sedgwick gets one for the Beasts. Johnnies goalie Craven stops 10 of 11 shots, that’s a good effort. Johnnies take outright lead in the competition.
[quote:2j432m4s]Bears vs OBHS: OBs to take it 4-1.[/quote:2j432m4s]
Bears rack up an important first win, taking it over OBs 4-2. Conway gets a double, Wheeler stops 90% in net – a big improvement over the early stages of the competition. Ihaia can’t match it, stopping 50% of 8 shots, Conway takes two, Spiers and Kelly each net for Bears.
We’re kinda at an unofficial halfway stage in the competition now. A grade has completed the first round, SK8 and Phantoms are looking like the teams to beat. There’s no semi-final in the A grade, so finishing in that top two is crucial if you want to be playing in the big final.
B grade, Johnnies well on top, and no one is looking like stopping them at this stage. Beasts clearly second, and there’s a scrap at the bottom for fourth. There’s semis in the B grade, so finishing in the four (but preferably not fourth, as then you’ll play the top team) is the goal.
Two weeks off, picks for the next round be out then.
October 8, 2006 at 10:22 pm #1532KyleMemberYeah baby. Week four. Everyone’s had two weeks off, and no doubt most people forgot to take their gear out of their bags, so it’ll be smelling right toasty in the changing rooms this week. Everyone’s been hanging out for some hockey, so lets get into it.
[b:2xb6r5k8]A Grade[/b:2xb6r5k8]
A grade cycle through for the second time in their round-robin. Things are getting sorted out in an order, but no one is out yet. Stars need to pull out something serious to find themselves in the final through, and SK8 are looking pretty likely to end up playing in it already. It’s all about the maths if you’re interested in the details.
Stars vs Phantoms
This is really it for the Stars. On one point, the Phantoms are in second place on 4 points. If phantoms win they go up to 6 points, and Stars have no chance of making the final. Key for the Phantoms – who turns up on the night. They’ve already got the smallest team in the competition by two players, with Smith out, and a couple of people have been occasional no-shows. On their plus side, they did some serious damage against the Stars last time, racking up 7 goals, and they’ll be looking to repeat the feat and get their name solidly in the top two. Stars have got the talent – they’ve been the only team to not be beaten by SK8 this competition, they just need to step up and put the puck away. Kyle’s pick: Phantoms to take it 4-3. King and van Leeuwen to net for Phantom, Benda and Lamb for Stars.
Ducks vs SK8
Ducks really want a win to keep themselves in the running for a finals spot. A loss, and they really have to hope that the Phantoms have lost. SK8, on the other hand, with a win, can guarantee themselves a finals game with two weeks still to go. Ducks looked pretty rusty the first time these two met, but I’m picking a much closer game this time around. Key for the Ducks – stepping it up. SK8 play well together, and are solid all through. They’re going to need to play well as a team, and Blackett is going to need to have a good night in goal. For SK8 – keeping on trucking. If they settle down from some of the stupid stuff that came into their last game, with 6 penalties, they should be able to win this game. Kyle’s pick, SK8 4-2, van Leeuwen and both the Roth boys, and Wick for SK8, Gilchrist and Sharpe for Ducks.
B Grade
B grade continues to have several points of interest with a couple of round robin games to go. Beasts and John McGlashan are out on top, looking good for first and second. Of the remainder, Kings have had a couple of wins, and even if they lose to Johnnies tonight, as long as they can beat OBHS the week after, should settle into third. Fourth place is more difficult to pick. Bears and Bullfrogs both have a win, Bears have yet to play the top two teams though, so they might stay where they are. If Bullfrogs can beat OBHS on Wednesday, they should be good for fourth place. On the other hand, if OBHS beat Bullfrogs, all eyes will be on their game against Kings next week – a victory there should see them sweep past the other two and into the semis.
Bullfrogs vs OBHS
So a key game then. OBHS haven’t been looking like the money this season, but they had the hardest start, and they’re onto easier meat now. If they can step up, and probably most importantly for them, if their goalie can front and pick up his percentage, they could get on top of this game. Bullfrogs however are improving well, and getting more used to the game environment of the DIHL, and will want to make their claim for a final spot this week. Kyle’s pick: 4-2 to Bullfrogs.
Kings vs John McGlashan
This could be a big game. John McGlashan have been on form so far, and the Beasts were unable to trip them up. Kings look the other team that could be possible of upsetting them, but it will have to be a big game for them to do so. Johnnies will look to keep on rolling. This game will cement their first place, and set them up for an easier game in the semis against 4th. Kyle’s pick: John McGlashan 5-2.
Bears vs Beasts
Bears got their first win the other week, a good effort against OBHS, but they’re back to playing the big boys, and Beasts have looked pretty money so far. They’ve got a good goalie, some serious goal-scoring power, and a number of players who’ll be looking at playing solely in A grade next year. That being said, Bears are looking like the improvers of the competition, and Wheeler is coming a long way in goal. Their key though, will be goal scoring. Can they get enough shots on the Beasts goalie to rack up three or four goals, which they’ll need to win? Kyle’s pick: Beasts 6-1.
October 17, 2006 at 12:39 am #1533KyleMember[quote:3hb080bu]Stars vs Phantoms
Kyle’s pick: Phantoms to take it 4-3. King and van Leeuwen to net for Phantom, Benda and Lamb for Stars.[/quote:3hb080bu]
4-4 draw. Phantoms started with a nightmare, with no goalie, and half the team wandering onto the ice after the puck dropped. A call for slowing the game down, and they were 1-0 down while some people will still placing their water bottles. They started to settle down, and went ahead a few times, but every time they got up, Stars came back and tied it up. The last two minutes were chaos in the Phantoms box, with Matthews, Senger, and then van Leeuwen getting boxed, and there were rumblings from the bench. Phantoms clock up a whole 18 minutes in all. Hodge and van Leeuwen get two each, and Mannerswood and Lamb also get a pair. Lamb in particular makes it a hard night for the Phantoms defense with a big stride to get around. Stars still in with a chance of making the final, Phantoms still not safe.
[quote:3hb080bu]Ducks vs SK8
Kyle’s pick, SK8 4-2, van Leeuwen and both the Roth boys, and Wick for SK8, Gilchrist and Sharpe for Ducks.[/quote:3hb080bu]
SK8 again roll the duckies, and lock in a finals spot. Goalie Tony Pasco is again the difference, stopping 95%. R. Sykes scores a lonly goal for the Ducks, Wick, van Leeuwen, and Lang score for SK8. 4-1.
[quote:3hb080bu]Bullfrogs vs OBHS
Kyle’s pick: 4-2 to Bullfrogs.[/quote:3hb080bu]
A 4-4 draw to keep the points table interesting. Api in goal for OBHS picks up his stats and gets his side their first point. Bullfrogs will be disappointed not to roll over the top of the school, but well done for Sharpin for her first goal.
[quote:3hb080bu]Kings vs John McGlashan
Kyle’s pick: John McGlashan 5-2.[/quote:3hb080bu]
Johnnies keep rolling, 9-2 over Kings and are looking pretty unstoppable. Rob McLean looks like the top goal scorer in B grade. Kings only manage 5 shots, so two goals isn’t too bad considering.
[quote:3hb080bu]Bears vs Beasts
Kyle’s pick: Beasts 6-1.[/quote:3hb080bu]
Beasts do some serious damage to the Bears, 12-1, and spread the goals around 7 players, Mitchell leading with four. Young Ibbotson gets a solitary goal for the Bears.
October 17, 2006 at 1:00 am #1534KyleMemberWe’re right into the serious end of the competition now. B grade goes to semi-finals in 8 days, and tonight will most likely make things a lot clearer in the A grade come the final week.
[b:3e0uysca]Phantoms vs SK8[/b:3e0uysca]
Phantoms were their own worst enemy last week – a bunch of penalties, and the team simply not being ready when the puck was dropped – they’ll be feeling that last week was a game they should have won, cementing themselves a finals spot. They’ll be looking to make amends this week, but they struggled to get the puck in the back of the SK8 net first time around, and Tony Pasco really has been the goalie of the competition to date, so they’re going to have to front up. SK8 really just need to keep on trucking. Wick, van Leeuwen, Roth brothers, they look dangerous all over, and as long as that defense holds the goals will come. Kyle’s pick: I can’t pick against my own team, but it’s going to be tight if we get it. Phantoms 3-2. Matthews to net to celebrate the birth of his daughter last Thursday (photos![/url:3e0uysca]). Wick and van Leeuwen for SK8.
[b:3e0uysca]Ducks vs Stars[/b:3e0uysca]
Both these teams need a win to stay in the running, the loser is playing early on finals night, the winner keeps on hoping. Ducks won last time, but Stars are picking up, and have had two draws against the top teams. Watch for Benda, Mannerswood, and Lamb. But bad news for the Stars, regular goalie Bryant is out for an exam, and the replacement might not be up to his standard. Ducks will be looking to come on strong, and both the Sykes boys should net. Kyle’s pick: 3-2 to the Ducks, Blackett to have a good game in net.
[b:3e0uysca]OBHS vs Kings[/b:3e0uysca]
OBHS scored their first point last week, and a win here would see them in the running for the finals, but Kings suffered hard last week, and will be wanting to come back and win to cement third place. Kyle’s pick: Kings 4-1.
[b:3e0uysca]Beasts vs Bullfrogs[/b:3e0uysca]
Beasts have looked the business all DIHL, and the Bullfrogs have gotten better, but not good enough. There’s going to be Bullfrog splattered all over the rink, and I’m picking it’ll go to 8-1 to the Beasties.
[b:3e0uysca]John McGlashan vs Bears[/b:3e0uysca]
Bears will be running scared against Johnnies, and rightly so. MacLean has been in good form this season, piling on a heap of goals, and the Bears just aren’t going to have an answer to the kids from JMs. My pick: 7-0 to JMs.
That would see finals qualification, in order, for JMs, Beasts, Kings, and Bullfrogs sneaking in at 4th.
October 17, 2006 at 7:12 pm #1535JackMemberAnothe DRAW!!!!! OMG!!!! Have we offended some gyspies or something??!?!!? It seems some pretty weird voodoo is at work here!?!?!?!?! I’m soo sick of drawing!!!!!!
October 18, 2006 at 8:26 am #1536GazzaMember"Jack":ba5hwqvl wrote:Anothe DRAW!!!!! OMG!!!! Have we offended some gyspies or something??!?!!? It seems some pretty weird voodoo is at work here!?!?!?!?! I’m soo sick of drawing!!!!!![/quote:ba5hwqvl]… then don’t draw… paint instead… 😆
October 18, 2006 at 8:24 pm #1537JackMemberHah hah , whos the funny man?!?!?!?!?!?
You know what, i think I have figured out my team’s biggest strength, the number of lines we have ” title=”Cheesy” />. We seem to be the expert at tireing the other team out now, we score minimum goals in the first 2 periods of most of our games, but we just seem to unleash in the last period.
Any how, It’s going to be a fantastic rematch in the Finals when we face off against John McGlashan ” title=”Cheesy” />, and this time, we’ll show the Jonnies boys the difference between Men and Boys!!!!!! muahahahahahahah
(appologies to Estelle and Jane on our team, i just couldn’t find a quote that included boy, men and girls in the same sentence ” title=”Tongue” />)yea, i shoudl really go to my exam now…… ” title=”Cheesy” />
October 18, 2006 at 9:18 pm #1538JaneyMemberHey! ya know the beasts need to learn how to pass it between each other a bit more, including myself YES.
Just thought I might say inrespect to helping out next year I would be keen to take on some kinda oragnisational role count me in!October 19, 2006 at 1:22 am #1539JackMemberPassing? whats that? OH, its that thing I scream all the time but seem to evaporate from my brain mid way through the third period ” title=”Tongue” />
October 23, 2006 at 9:58 pm #1540guestMemberI witnessed the game of the Phantoms and SK8. I know that the rules state that visors are required and that was the last week it was going to be let go. Tell me Kyle, why did you call James over in the first intermission and try to force his team to put visors on at that point in the game? Looked to me like you guys were getting frustrated and were trying to do something so you could score a goal. Seems to me that was a little unsportsmanlike. It’s just a game really and you guys tied in the end. Do you really think it was that big of a deal to try and enforce the visor issue in the first intermisson? Did you really think James was going to force his players to? On top of that I spoke to a few Phantom players abou that and they all thought that that was not nessesery to do that at that time and it looked really bad for your team, kinda like you guys would try anything to win sorta thing.
October 23, 2006 at 10:31 pm #1541imported_RyanMemberWelcome to the forum ‘guest’! Who are you? You really confused me with that choice of name as I’d altered the forum ages back to disallow people from posting as a guest. I fiddled with the settings for about 15 mins before realising your actual user name was ‘guest’!
I think you’ve missed the mark a little with the visor issue though, although I can see where you’re coming from – it didn’t look good for us. There was more going on behind the scenes than what you saw on the ice. Basically there had been a bunch of dialogue between Phil Handcock and Kyle and I (mainly Kyle I think) about enforcement of equipment rules well before that game. For whatever reason, the referees don’t feel they need to enforce the rules, I don’t understand why at all but anyhows. Kyle’s timing was definitely pretty shocking though, best to leave stuff like that till when you’re not the one playing them. But I don’t think believe he was trying to do anything vindictive to win the game or anything, he just chose a [b:2ws0pbcu]really[/b:2ws0pbcu] bad time to try and force the issue.
Personally my approach would be to get the DIHA committee to insist that the referees enforce the rules. That way it’s completely non-biased and the referees wouldn’t have any choice but to do what they’re told or risk not getting paid for their work.
Kyle’s explanation after the game was that it wasn’t really going to affect SK8 as they could easily have gone over to the equipment shed and borrowed a helmet and cage for the next two periods. Although I’m sure that would have put them off their game a bit.
There are some issues for Kyle and I with referees not enforcing equipment rules associated with our position as league organisers. If there are any injuries from referees failing to enforce rules and we don’t act on it when we know that the referees are refusing to enforce safety rules then there is some risk of us being held liable for injuries etc. That type of thing could go all the way to the DIHA president although I’m not sure, either way we don’t want anyone getting into legal trouble. There was a case in New Zealand a few years ago of the organisers of a cycling race being held liable for a death during a race as they supposedly hadn’t followed their own safety criteria, a similar problem was encountered at the Queenstown street race (for cars), infact the Queenstown street race has had to be cancelled due to that incident.
Ryan,
October 23, 2006 at 11:00 pm #1542KyleMemberAlways good to get criticism from anonymous sources! Encourages people to continue to volunteer their time to organising hockey tournaments for you to play in, honest.
Anyway, in answer to your question – I’ve been asking the referees to enforce the helmet rule for several weeks now, and they said that they would do this, and we discussed how players could simply get legal helmets from the gear room if they didn’t have one available. There’s no ‘last week it was going to be let go’. Players were emailed after game three and reminded about helmet rules, and the referees were asked to chase up players during game four who still weren’t complying.
The referees hadn’t done this, so I approached them in the intermission and asked them to enforce the rule. I asked them to tell the other team of this, and said that I was happy for us to pause the game so that the people affected could go get helmets – a referees time out.
Anyway, the referees indicated that they weren’t going to tell the SK8 team (and as it turned out weren’t going to enforce the rule, but that’s another issue). So I went over the SK8 huddle and told James that I had asked the referees to enforce the wearing of visors. It wasn’t (and still isn’t) my preference for players to have minor penalties assessed against them, I just want players to be wearing proper safety equipment. If the referees weren’t going to give the other team time to do this, I wanted to give them the time to do so. Anyway, James and the SK8 team chose not to do anything about it, and the referees chose not to enforce it last week, so it’s a moot point.
As to why I’m pushing for the helmet rule to be enforced. There’s two reasons. I (along with other people) run a tournament in a sport in which people can get seriously hurt. Sometimes that’s just the nature of ice hockey. However I don’t want to see someone get a puck or a stick in the eye, when they should have been wearing a visor. Almost all the serious, permanent injuries which arise from hockey (affecting the brain, eyes etc) arise from hits in the area covered by the helmet and visor. Legs, shoulders, ribs etc, all heal fine. Eyes and brain often don’t. I would feel personally responsible for having run a tournament at which the players weren’t wearing the correct equipment, and they suffered a serious injury.
Secondly, the equipment rules under which we operate are there for good reason. They provide a framework (both national and international) at which other players, referees, tournament organisers, the Dunedin Ice Hockey Association, and the Dunedin Ice Rink can point and say ‘here is what is ‘safe’ for playing ice hockey’. This is the basis on which ice hockey players qualify for Accident Compensation, and the basis on which the various people and organisations listed above can be considered to have been acting responsibly.
A few years ago the organisers of a bike race in Christchurch faced criminal charges because they had failed to do enough to ensure the safety of participants in the sport – one of the riders was killed by an oncoming car. While the chances of something like that happening are pretty slim, the risk is still there. If someone suffered a serious injury during a game, and the crown pursued legal action against the club then the club would most likely have to close, and there just wouldn’t be any ice hockey in Dunedin. I don’t want to think about what would happen if they pursued action against an individual such as the referee or a tournament organiser. Players could also face problems getting ACC because they weren’t wearing the correct protective equipment for their sport, etc.
I’m not really sure how approaching James in the intermission and telling him that I’d asked the referees to enforce the visors, would in any way help us win the game. But y’know, whatever. I don’t really see it as an issue between the two teams, as I was continuing a discussion that I’ve been having with the head referee as coordinator of the A grade tournament. I understand there’s also a Star player who is non-compliant. When the referees decided not to do anything about it, I left it as an off-ice problem, and took it up with the head referee the next day.
I believe the referees are going to be stricter on the equipment rules from tonight onwards, so I’d recommend all players bring correct helmets, mouthguards etc.
October 23, 2006 at 11:21 pm #1543KyleMember[quote:2y8t8tig]Kyle’s timing was definitely pretty shocking though, best to leave stuff like that till when you’re not the one playing them.[/quote:2y8t8tig]
If it wasn’t clear from my post, I approached the referees during the SK8 game the week before, when they were playing the Ducks, and asked the referees to remind the SK8 players who weren’t wearing visors then that they should be. Why there were people not wearing visors the week after, I don’t know.
I don’t think it’s an ideal situation to have people running tournaments as well as playing in them, but if we applied that rule then the last three DIHLs (and several at the big chill), the A grade tournament that Andre ran earlier this year, and last years contact tournaments all wouldn’t have happened. If anyone knows anyone who doesn’t play ice hockey, but wants to devote a whole pile of time to enabling other people to do so, please sign them up. I’ll happily do something else with my time.
Failing that, if there were any serious concerns that people had, they could take them to either the DIHA President, or to the committee. I’d be entirely happy to listen to any rulings they made on matters.
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