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May 30, 2007 at 3:10 am #3259Jono_Member
yeah there really should be an “amazing save” point table i reckon. Noticed a fantastic glove save you decided to hold up high like some form of trophy- that deserves one point. However if you have an “amazing save” point, surely a “robbed by the post” 1/2 point should be given to all near miss post shots.
I promise you i’m not having you on, there was a third goal. Just as i said. I think it was Steve, but i dunno who actually. It really went straight in and out again. So must have been right in the middle of the goal shot from directly out front in the middle. I couldn’t believe it wasn’t called, then noticed no goal judge, so understood why.
Maybe in future DIHL’s paying someone like $5-10 a game to goal judge would be a good idea? Charge everyone like $10.20 a game or something to cover costs or something? Goal judge would have help sort out the dramas from the first goal scored against ya last night too!
May 30, 2007 at 3:17 am #3260Azzy77ModeratorI really don’t remember that, do you remember the play around it?
what was going on? Where the puck ended up? etc.
They don’t give you a save if it hits the post so no need to allow a 1/2 save for that.
However perhaps a 1/2 save should be credited for when you are so well positioned there is no shot, so they miss. this could get really complicated.I suggested that Dunedin needs to invest in goal cam’s just two cameras placed directly above the nets, so they look straight down onto the goal line.
Then the scoring ladies could watch and hit the button, if it goes in, or if there is a disputed goal the ref could go check the replay, that would be awesomeMay 30, 2007 at 3:33 am #3261Jono_MemberI think after the puck bounced back out Steve or someone shot the rebound from right in front, which you saved (well done). I think it was when it ended up next to the left goal post, but everyone thought you were sitting on it until it was seen my the post. Then there was a bit of an attempt by everyone to push it in past your pad, or push us out the way! I THINK that was when it happened. But i was probably busy making sure one of their offense guys didn’t try to pull a sneaky seagull move, or something else strategic and important (probably more likely to be falling over somewhere!.
Goal cam would be amazing. (Its only a few steps away from a fog horn and anthems!) Probably cost more than $5-10 a game to install that though!
May 30, 2007 at 4:10 am #3262KyleMemberIf it’s the one I’m thinking of, where the puck finished on the line, I thought I had a pretty good view of that (I was of to the left side on the goal line), not too far away, and didn’t see that puck in the net. Aaron stopped it right on the line and his pad was right on top of it, rather than being in front of it.
I was out of position (too far behind the play) on the first goal which is why I couldn’t say 100% that it went in.
The lack of goal judges is a problem in our games. If people when they’re out on the ice playing want to get better support for referees in giving/not giving goals, then they need to goal judge when they’re not playing. People don’t tend to do that here, even though we ask for it, so they just have to lump it when someone doesn’t do it for them.
If there was a queue of people to get paid for enabling ice hockey games to happen, I’d put the people in the scorebox well ahead of goal judges. We’re very lucky in Dunedin that we have a few wonderful women who do the majority of our scoring and timekeeping for absolutely nothing.
Before I started playing ice hockey I played inline hockey. There team duties include all of refereeing, goal judging, and scoring/timekeeping. Only refereeing was paid, and when a team got duties, they had to front up with six people, two of whom were qualified referees, and two of whom could run scoring and timekeeping. Here when duties is on the roster, the
In ice hockey here, people seem to think that all they need to do is pay money and play. That only works if they don’t want goal judges, and we continue to be fantastically supported by our scorebox wonder-people.
May 30, 2007 at 4:44 am #3263imported_RyanMemberSimple solution to the goal judges problem is to just do what we did in the DIHL previously. Made it compulsory for teams to front with goal judges, if they don’t they’re penalised. I can’t imagine teams wouldn’t bothered arranging goal judges if they lost points for it. That’s basically how the South Island Region Inline Hockey League worked and there was rarely any goal judges missing.
This didn’t work previously because the referees never bothered reporting the lack of goal judges and I didn’t care enough to bother. I always figured if the referees were happy then that would do. But if the referees/scorekeepers were requested by the league to report on teams failing to front with goal judges the problem would be solved – I think.
Personally I couldn’t less if we have goal judges or not anyway, I’m happy to accept the occasional screw up by the referees/lines people as long as they’re not biased. But I guess others are more ansy about this stuff.
Ryan,
May 30, 2007 at 7:56 am #3264KyleMember"Ryan":1wjn3viy wrote:Simple solution to the goal judges problem is to just do what we did in the DIHL previously. Made it compulsory for teams to front with goal judges, if they don’t they’re penalised. I can’t imagine teams wouldn’t bothered arranging goal judges if they lost points for it. That’s basically how the South Island Region Inline Hockey League worked and there was rarely any goal judges missing.
[/quote:1wjn3viy]I never saw any southern region teams get penalised for not fronting for duties – including us a few times when it happened.
Anyway, someone else’s problem from next Tuesday. We should definitely have goal judges for the final though. Any volunteers?
May 31, 2007 at 1:16 am #3265matt aMember"Azzy77":2niln3qi wrote:I sent Kyle some newer stats than that bout two/three weeks ago.
Umm… I could send you them but busy doing projects at the moment, and would take me a while to find them, send you something sundayBut Kyle should have relatively up to date stuff
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So where they be? This is a serious miscarraige of justice.
May 31, 2007 at 1:28 am #3266KyleMemberI sent them onto Ryan a couple of weeks ago. *points finger*
May 31, 2007 at 1:51 am #3267imported_RyanMemberUm, my bad then I guess. I’ll hunt them out and post them tonight.
Ryan,
May 31, 2007 at 2:34 am #3268matt aMemberjesus christ what is this, a bloody animal farm?
How many chemistry/history department workers does it take to change a light bulb/put stats up? I don’t know but it seems ryan is too busy on dinner “dates” to care about the forum/hockey community. This was made very clear in my mind when a quick check over the “hours spent online” revealed ryan is bordering on almost a business week (5 days) of pure forum enjoyment.
Matts picks for the week:
Ryan will frantically google search for methods in which to remove the “time spent online”, which can be viewed by following the action plan outlined below.
Action Plan
1. View the stats page (accesible from the main forum page)
2. Right click on an empty section of the page and select “page source”
3. using the search function, scan the page for ryans name
4. keep scanning until the relevant information is found; it will be in green font as opposed to the other blue,black and purple text, which is irrelevant.Alternatively, you could click on the link below and continue from step 2 from the aforementioned “Action Plan”.
Click here to know the truth…..about god, where those little chicken wings actually come from, 911 and who the real shooter in Dallas, Texas, 1963, was.
http://www.dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi/forum … tion=stats
yours sincerely,
Magnum P.I.May 31, 2007 at 2:36 am #3269imported_RyanMemberhaha, nice. I’ll add in here that my RSS reader seems to be goofing up my time spent online hence I yanked the time spent off-line from the stats page. And I can remove the code from the source if I really felt like it, just requires deleting the code ” title=”Tongue” /> But I’ll leave it for your viewing pleasure Matt.
Ryan,
June 3, 2007 at 2:19 pm #3270imported_RyanMemberWell tonight ended up being a week later coz I forgot about them! But they’re up now for your viewing pleasure …
[b:2mp3iejv][size=3:2mp3iejv]Dunedin Ice Hockey League A-grade statistics »[/url:2mp3iejv][/size:2mp3iejv][/b:2mp3iejv]
[b:2mp3iejv][size=3:2mp3iejv]Dunedin Ice Hockey League B-grade statistics »[/url:2mp3iejv][/size:2mp3iejv][/b:2mp3iejv]
Ryan,
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