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  • #12350
    Jofa playa
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    Evertone thought it was an auto suspension so did I whats going on ae, i bet if it was stampede or thunder they there would be a shit fight about it

    #12351
    Azzy77
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    Yeah I personally think five for fighting and that is the end of it like nhl styles is the way to go. Lets be honest some of the biggest cheers you hear in a hockey ground are for the fighting.

    But if the rules state automatic suspension then a automatic suspension should be handed out. If none is handed out then there can be no automatic suspensions for any more fights this season. Because the precedent has been set.

    #12352
    vpatrol
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    neilson is a canadian guy so he knew how to fight apparently.  A lawyer too.  Who knew

    As far as the suspension goes, I think the refs need to make a referral on the game sheet whether its worthy of a suspension.  Or so I’ve heard.  In this case, it was two guys roughly even in height going at it and nobody was hurt.  No need for suspension so they both played sunday.  Neilson was in his civies during handshake on sunday so not sure if he got hurt or not.  Wasn’t from the fight though

    #12353
    Chin Strap
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    no its not an instant suspension for fighting just just like its not an instant suspension for checking from behind.

    Its upto the ref in hand to asses the situation at the time of the incident and how its written down on the score sheet.

    If a 5 and a game was issused then yes probley should have sat a game or a major issued in the last 5 minutes then yes again. but its upto the leauge and/or opposing team to call a disinplinary hearing within a certain amount of time 

    #12354

    As far as I’m aware if you fight, it’s automatic disqualification from a league. Hopefully they aren’t allowed to play for the rest of the season.

    #12355
    Azzy77
    Moderator

    I wasn’t suggesting there was a need for a suspension. I just thought the league had automatic standdown for a fighting/roughing/fisticuffs penalty.

    Thats what we got told.

    Personally I am a fan of the fights, but if it is a rule its a rule.

    #12356
    Kyle
    Member

    From the NZIHL rules:

    A hearing of the Disciplinary Committee shall be conducted where;
    (a) A Game Misconduct or Match Penalty is called by a Game Referee based on offences described in the current IIHF Official Rule Book that incur an automatic suspension and for the avoidance of doubt shall include any offence in which Match Penalties are called by a Game Referee.
    (b) A complaint is received by the General Manager of the NZIHL, provided such a complaint is received within 7 days of the alleged incident.

    (http://www.nzihl.com/media/352/nzihl-ru … se-1.3.pdf)

    #12357
    Active
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    The swarm guy fought like a typical Canadian hockey player. First you incapacitate your opponent by pulling their jersey over their head then whilst holding the opponents jersey in place  with one hand start hitting them while they cant see with the other

    #12358
    Defense101
    Member

    Thanks for the play by play on the fight.  Pretty much exactly as it showed in the Youtube movie that was posted  <img decoding=” title=”Tongue” />

    #12359
    nzice
    Member

    Both players were assessed a game misconduct.  So a “see you tomorrow” penalty. NZIHF rules do state Game Misconduct penalties in last 10 mins incur an additional game suspension – not sure why this was not enforced.  As it was both same teams playing next night and there was no advantage either way, I assume this was why it wasnt enforced – but dont know

    IIHF rules relevant to fisticuffs are
    http://www.iihf.com/fileadmin/user_uplo … rt_two.pdf

    #12360

    Weird. I always assumed they were automatically booted out of the league.

    #12361
    vpatrol
    Member

    I think it was a good call.  Both guys were willing participants.  Neither got hurt.  They served their time (Jacques had an additional 2 for cross checking).  They played the next game and there were no problems.

    #12362
    Tom
    Member

    Fighting should really be allowed in the league

    #12363
    Kyle
    Member

    We, like most of the rest of the world of ice hockey, play under the IIHF rules. It would be pretty bizarre to change the rules for one small league when every other time those players step on the ice they’ll be subject to the IIHF rules.

    #12364
    "Tom":2z0jkxx2 wrote:
    Fighting should really be allowed in the league
    [/quote:2z0jkxx2]

    By the sounds of it fighting is allowed in the league. From what was posted above they weren’t punished for it at all so I guess you can go clobber each other if you want.

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