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Don’t you worry Plod, we have been paying attention what happens up in the northern reaches of the country.
The Admirals appear to have imploded….we need to to a recruitment drive on here for some aucklanders, we only have NZice is it?
Where was he with updates?
Man bet the TAB are glad they are not offering odds on this competition.
Pretty much everyone is capable of beating everyone, and it appears anyone is capable of smashing anyone.I don’t think Alex, Naseby and Tekapo without rinks would affect NZIHL one iota.
If there were players wanting to make NZIHL, they would be able to play all winter, and Stampede and Thunder coaches would be able to watch all their games and see them play. If they were in either of the NZIHL teams, they would need to train with them anyway. So if anything would be beneficial to them.Yeah I agree with Kyle, Southern Open should run in conjunction with NZIHL, so for example when Thunder is playing, Thunder Coach could send 4th/5th line guys and 3rd goalie away with juniors etc away. Means they are getting ice time, hopefully they have enough skill to bring others up, creating a deeper talent pool for Southern, and means if their are a lot of injuries guys who are actually playing hockey can be called up.
The only rink that would be affected by summer hockey would be Queenstown, and they have opened in the Summer before, although I am not sure of the quality of the ice. Maybe a queenstowner can inform us?
Dunedin would probably be the only team affected by player drain over the summer.
So its pretty clear to see why Southern wouldn’t support the concept.
But I don’t see Canterbury and Auckland being adversely affected by Summer hockey, apart from the lack of imports.I actually quite like Kyles suggestion, of the touring option, perhaps you could have a couple of Australian teams touring, or one based in North Island, one based in Southe Island.
I have talked to someone in AIHL about this, and he suggested a week long tournament to be hosted in one or other of the countries. Featuring the Australian teams and North Island and South Island.
Yeah I have similar view to you Kyle.
The move on NZIHL to summer is not the right move I don’t think, and neither is moving the AIHL to summer. For the same reasons as you mention, Thunder would not be able to field a team, we rely too much on university players.
What I think would be a better solution would be to leave the respective competitions as they are, then have a summer competition putting the NZ players into AIHL.
From what i have heard is that the AIHL is interested in a North Island and a South Island team competeing over there.
So if you retain our national league and use it as selection the North and South Island teams, then you could play that combined league over the summer meaning the best players in the country (guys that will make up Ice Blacks) will be coming out of the highest level competition when they go the IIHF world champs.A guess the arguement against this would be player fatigue, too much hockey, but if it is only the top 40 odd players in the country then most of them would be devoted to making IB’s etc and will want to be playing a lot of hockey. And as it stand NZIHL is only 3 months long, the new summer league could be used in place or in conjunction with IB training camps so you are not adding any time to IB prospects hockey time there.
Also playing over summer, won’t you lose U20’s and U18’s as they will be going to worlds.
And you won’t have the same access to imports, although I believe the league is moving towards reducing imports anyway, so that may be moot point.So in summary I think they have their proposal backwards. Retain the countries independant leagues in the Winter months, because they are not broken, and it will allow the thunder to keep competing.
Have the new hybrid competetion in the Summer months so that the elite players can be peaking for their world champs.
Otherwise you have them coming out of world champs going into elite competition, dropping back a level for summer then go to world champs.The cycle should be come out of Worlds go into independant national leagues, pick your age group and North Island and South Island teams from there.
From the North Island and SOuth Island teams competeing in hybrid competition, pick your IBs for worlds. Natural progression I thinksUm I saw the game on Saturday, where Southern went down 6-3?? (I think) to Auckland.
Was strange because Southern looked in control the whole time I watched, (we were doing warmups and what not during their game)For the Dominance that southern had they were only 1-0 up going into 3rd. Auckland Scored two goals to go up 2-1, then southern scored 2 to go 3-2.
Then Auckland scored a bunch to finish up 6-3.From what I saw I felt Southern first line was out for too long, they were starting to get tired. They were very dominant, but you could see they were fading….
Not sure what happend next game
Sorry Kelf didn’t even check your link just assumed it was nzihl.com
Yeah we were just getting frustrated not being able to get standings. And between a couple of us on Slapshot we can get unofficial results.
And by making unofficial table, doesn’t matter too much if we stuff up.
Probably best if official websites wait for confirmed results. Although I am unsure why it would take so long to get these. In saying that nzihl was updated overnight, so maybe our unofficial table sped them upYeah we know, the reason for having it here, was we waiting for a week for it to be updated last round.
Yeah well Brookes, since you have been getting starts in the NZIHL, you have neglected your stats duties so much, I don’t even think you would know what a real table looks like……
I think based on past results….
Stampede beat Thunder, and West Auckland beat Red Devils by small margins, then Swarm beat Stampede and Thunder split Red Devils (should have won both) would indicate that Kyles predictions are the way the weekend will go.
Although as everyone knows past results don’t always count for anything, but based on the fact that none of the games are on tv we only can base picks on results.
I think Thunder has improved dramatically between the two weekends, and the Admirals are coming off a bye, so hopefully Thunder can finally break two hoo doos
1. Win two games in a weekend
2. Win two games in a SeasonRed Devils I think while having a very individual players, didn’t look very convincing against Thunder, and the Swarm with the backing of Estonia from all accounts were quite dominant against Stampede. (Feel free to correct me Stampeders, can only go from game reports) Although the dominance appeared to only show in third Periods, so maybe they take time to warmup.
So I think Swarm taking the maximum home would be a good call….Having said that it is unusual for the away teams in both rounds to be picked as favourites, that could be a factor. Thunder is going from a big ice surface to a small one, so will be interesting to see if that has any effect.
And the effect of flying can not be discounted…..And Eaden was looking potent against Thunder, especially when he got put on same line as Harrop and Argyle, and that only occured in 2nd game this could see Red Devils home if they finish their chances.
So in summary, I don’t know whats going to happen, and that’s definately good for the league, rather than the normal two horse races that the last seasons have descended into.
