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After this post, please continue all discussion of last night’s events and / or fighting in general in another thread. This thread is for the DIHL. Future posts which are not on topic will be split and moved to another thread.
1. I never claimed to be an expert. I’m not an expert – I don’t have a license to instruct.
2. Believe me Rhys, had I not shown self restraint you would have known about it. I am relieved that I did, in fact, stop myself from seriously injuring you, which I think you’ll agree was certainly an option for me had I so wished. All in all, I think you came out of it fairly lightly.
As many people have pointed out, perhaps he should have paid more attention to the size difference before he decided to make a cock of himself.
"Rhys M":3f9sjpoa wrote:Chris- I was appalled to see you not only in one fight but also another one later in the game i thought you may have quit while you were ahed. fighting a 13 year OLD, i find that quite possibly quite disturbing, and as a pose to stepping up and throwing punchs you have resorted to the low level ness of sticking your finger up my nose and eye gouging me, shot bro! you must be a hero cause of that![/quote:3f9sjpoa]
I stopped myself before I gouged you. I did so deliberately, in an effort to gain control over myself. You and I are both fortunate that I did.
Secondly, you and I are both well aware that you very much wanted a fight, but didn’t want to drop your gloves – you wanted me to take a penalty. Fine, whatever. But don’t pretend that immediately before the incident you hadn’t repeatedly rammed your stick into my ribs and then pushed me in the head while we were by the boards. I’m not condoning my reaction, just don’t make out like you were just minding your own business.
Thirdly, I don’t give a shit how lippy 13 year olds get, but when someone punches me in the face (as he did), I’m not going to ask for ID before I retaliate.
Let me just reiterate that I’m not defending or condoning what happened, but I’ll be buggered if I’ll sit here and listen to Rhys pretend that it was the Jets causing the problems in the first place.
"Jofa playa":m2ftuqjg wrote:Im very dissapointed to find that chris laing one of our mighty forum administrators has been involved in such a gross act of unsportsmanlike conduct towards younger players in his own social league. I hope that if the younger players are to be banned that so extreme action is taken against the older players such as chris for instigating such behaviour
[/quote:m2ftuqjg]You’re not the only one disappointed with my behaviour last night. The only thing I would disagree with you on is the comment that I “instigated” anything. In the incident for which I was given a game misconduct, I think it was obvious to all that I had been pushed to my limits by the kind of play that was occurring. That is why rather than throwing punches, as is ‘traditional’ in hockey, I reacted even less appropriately. Fortunately for me, I was able to stop myself short of actually inflicting any damage, at which point I simply took my opponent to the ground in order to end the altercation. Such a reaction was provoked, quite obviously I would have thought, by relatively serious incidents, including one in which I took a deliberate high stick to the face which managed to cut my lips, tongue and mouthguard (which was not called, just fyi).
So, to cut a long story short, to claim that I was an instigator would be incorrect.
"Active":2ge03i38 wrote:The refs in Dunedin are all on a learning curve and no doubt they would have gone home and looked up the rule book to see what they could/should have done and will be better for it. Any body who wants to fire off shots at refs need to to some reffing themselves then they can become experts and then maybe someone will take them seriously
[/quote:2ge03i38]I don’t think it’s appropriate to blame the refs for what occurred last night, though I can’t say I would have been disappointed had the large amount of dirty play been picked up earlier.
"vpatrol":2ge03i38 wrote:What I am trying to say is that you have a core group of players who are often seen as trouble makers.
[/quote:2ge03i38]I think that comment pretty much sums it up. I’m not absolving myself of blame at all, but certainly there are elements of the hockey community down here who go out of their way to cause trouble. Certainly when I relayed to other hockey players what happened and who was involved, there wasn’t a great deal of surprise.
"Kyle":2ge03i38 wrote:I wasn’t at the game and haven’t seen the scoresheet, but I understand that there were more people sent off from the senior team than the junior team, so I don’t think it’s an old person teaching a young person a lesson thing. The most serious one was certainly someone from the Jets, not the FYC.
[/quote:2ge03i38]Again, I have no issue with the refs from last night, either in general or for that game specifically, but in my opinion the penalty minutes on the scoresheet do not, in this case, paint an accurate picture of the way the game was being played.
I take full responsibility for my own conduct, but I certainly did not incite anything, or participate in any dirty play apart from those incidents for which I was penalised. As I was by far the worst offender on the Jets team, I can say with confidence that the Jets were not engaging in dirty play of any kind. The same cannot be said for the FYC.
I think when you have a situation where a guy like Mike Wesseling, who is probably one of the most calm and reasonable players I know, getting sent off for fighting then there is more to the situation than perhaps the scoresheet would suggest.
[quote:2br32og4]I’m not sure what is controversial about 7, if someone wants to provide an example where people should model bad behaviour that the club would be in favour of.[/quote:2br32og4]
What’s controversial about 7 is that you’re writing a code of conduct which tells [b:2br32og4]grown adults[/b:2br32og4] who don’t even play hockey how to conduct themselves.
"Ryan":2lwd1llx wrote:Yes, Mallory is a considerably better hockey player than you. Thanks for pointing it out.[/quote:2lwd1llx]
You’re awesome Hellyer.
"Ryan":1quxe3s1 wrote:"Chris":1quxe3s1 wrote:Dude, they should [b:1quxe3s1]totally[/b:1quxe3s1] have talked to me! I would’ve given them some “material” alright…
[/quote:1quxe3s1]Lol, yes, well you would have had the exact opposite opinion to mine.
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Oh, I definitely have opinions about gender equality in hockey:
"Ryan":3uiviq41 wrote:Lol @ChrisThe point of this was to get feedback. No need to get your panties in a bunch
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[/quote:3uiviq41]Pansy-ass wussy boy bullshit combined with statist nannying pseudo-regulation [size=180:3uiviq41][color=red:3uiviq41]REALLY BUNCHES MY FRICKING PANTIES!!11!1!ONE[/color:3uiviq41][/size:3uiviq41]
Kyle, you did the same stupid bloody thing with the draft forum rules. Get off your bloody statist, Marxist, totalitarian high horse and realise what codes of conduct are about.
[quote:18fplfhl]1. Play hockey for a love of the game above all other things.[/quote:18fplfhl]
If I want to play hockey because I enjoy on-ice bollocks-scratching, that’s my own business, not yours. Stop trying to tell me how to think and feel.
[quote:18fplfhl]4. Aim for improvement in all aspects of their game at all times.[/quote:18fplfhl]
Why? Whether or not I improve is my own fricking business, not yours.
[quote:18fplfhl]3. Learn the rules and strategies of ice hockey to increase their understanding of the game.[/quote:18fplfhl]
Why? What business is it of yours if I don’t want to learn strategies?
[quote:18fplfhl]8. Respect officials and submit to their rulings without argument.[/quote:18fplfhl]
Much more like it.
[quote:18fplfhl]The Dunedin Ice Hockey Association has a zero tolerance policy towards ‘hazing’ or other team or rookie initiation rituals. Any player, parent, coach or official who engages in any such behaviour faces disciplinary consequences.[/quote:18fplfhl]
Spot on. Clear, concise, and short.
If you want a code of conduct that people will actually follow, then for the love of god keep all the hand-wringing touchy-feely poo the frick out of it.
Kyle, how about this one:
Youth players are expected to meet the following standards of behaviour:
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10. Gather together, hold hands, and sing “Kumbaya” before and after every game.[quote:n56dh0uk]1. Play hockey for a love of the game above all other things.
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5. Support all players to do their best and not criticising them for their mistakes.
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7. Provide a good example for fellow parents and players in their behaviour.[/quote:n56dh0uk]Jesus fucking christ. No comment. /sigh
"Ryan":3ay6aczv wrote:Anna Craw brought the media along as it seems they’re creating a short documentary about her hockey playing antics. They interviewed me, although it became quickly apparent that it is more like a documentary about sexism in hockey as every question was relating to gender bias in the sport. I somehow managed to keep my trap mostly shut on the issue (I have strong views on the matter). They told me we can post the video here once it’s ready so you will all get to see.
[/quote:3ay6aczv]Dude, they should [b:3ay6aczv]totally[/b:3ay6aczv] have talked to me! I would’ve given them some “material” alright…
