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  • in reply to: Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand? #10595
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    Felt like watching their vacation video, don’t think that’s what ESPN were interested in… Buy what do you expect.

    From dealing with different sports of different sizes from a media perspective, I think ice hockey could use baseball as a good example of how to grow.  Baseball is the fastest growing sport in NZ at the moment, and is getting plenty of exposure as a result.  I realis that infrastructure-wise there’s some huge differences between the 2 sports, but baseball still has their own problems. I dont know how well ice hockey plays with the likes of inline hockey, but baseball realised they had to work with softball rather than against it, and it’s worked for them. And then they’ve been able to sell the players on the idea that there’s more opportunities playing baseball over softball.
    A lot of the growth has also been focused on increasing the game at youth level. Again, infrastructure is a huge hurdle for ice hockey but I think it’s been done pretty well with the age group competitions and the like.
    For the first time, Baseball NZ got itself a dedicated Executive to work on developig the game here. That’s meant one person can help coordinate all the different aspects of the game separate from the likes of the president and other administrators. The executive is the type of person who can also deal with media and do a lot of the PR for them.
    There’s been a couple if huge things happen with baseball here lately and they’ve really capitalize on it, like NY Yankee Curtis Granderson visiting and running clinics, NZ getting into the World Baseball Classic, and players signing to play in the US. There’s no reason NZ playing in the World Champs getting more coverage or any players playing overseas.
    Either way, just a suggestion…
    Also interesting to hear someone involved with the “international” series saying the promoter made lots of money, after the US captain said all the money was going to charity to help Christchurch. It fair to say we e come to expect bs from the promoter but saying that is way crossing the line. Maybe it’s somethin the players were sold on to come and play. Craig, you’ve got my number, I’d love to hear from you to clarify <img decoding=” title=”Wink” />

    in reply to: Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand? #10531
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    "Kyle":1fxqe7jn wrote:
    "GP":1fxqe7jn wrote:
    Is that an NHL logo on the big screen?  Somewhat out of place I would’ve thought…
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    Yeah. I believe they’ve been asked not to use that.

    Next game to go to USA. Decider in Dunedin. Woo.
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    Not that they needed to know since the teams are nothing to do with them (invitational and unsanctioned) but the first Hockey Canada heard about this series was seeing shots of Team Canada in some promo stuff.  And you wonder why people thought they were getting the real thing?

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    "Kyle":2zdasnqj wrote:
    The arena does look pretty amazing: http://yfrog.com/gz2xrroj
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    Is that an NHL logo on the big screen?  Somewhat out of place I would’ve thought…

    Sounds like the event was pretty well received by most, plenty of entertainment but lacking in proper competition and intensity, not helped by a couple of staged fights early on.  Those who didn’t know too much about hockey were happy and said they got what they paid for.  Some who did have a bit of hockey knowledge said they expected better quality of players and it didn’t live up to the price they paid, and felt a little like hockey on ice thanks to the contrived fights.  Some of them said they’d been to hockey in Canada and US and couldn’t understand the price of the tickets for what they actually got.

    It’s good the audience that didn’t know much about hockey have been exposed to it and had a positive experience.  Hopefully it means they might go along and see some local games if they get the chance.

    Not that the result really matters, but someone said as they left “$50 says the US win the next game in a shootout”

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    "Active":15rcx6y1 wrote:
    Promoters who bring over the likes of Elton John are not doing it because they love Elton or they want to grow an appreciation of his music or   encourage the acceptance of gay entertainers , They do it to make money, money, money, no other reason. Thats why they are called promoters, so its a rather empty argument you use re the good of hockey.
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    If you buy a ticket very expensive ticket to what you think is Elton John and an impersonator turns up, would you go to Elton John again? That’s my concern, there was talk of NHL megastars, multiple Olympians and Stanley Cup champions when the tickets first went on sale, and that clearly isn’t the case for who’s shown up.

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    According to one of the captains talking on Close Up last night, all the profits are going to charity. I look forward to following that one up!

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    The promoter managed to screw over tv3 by pulling out of an interview at 3 in the afternoon and told us we couldn’t film the rink either. We would’ve stuck it into the promoter more but the local guys are stuck in such a position that they need the series to be a success for it to hopefully trickle down into the local game.
    I see the promoter is at it again in the herald, claiming hundreds of peoe turned up at the airport to welcome the teams. Yes there were hundreds of people there but only because it was the international arrivals with flights from London and LA landing, no one was there to see the players, and why would they.
    And apologies to the Ice Blacks for getting the location wrong for the winter games.

    in reply to: Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand? #10499
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    cheers

    of those who haven’t bought tickets, what’s the main reason why not?

    in reply to: Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand? #10496
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    A question for those who are going to any of the games in the series: 

    Would you have still bought tickets with the info that is now available (size of rosters, players coming, running clocks) compared to the promotions when you first bought your tickets?

    in reply to: Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand? #10486
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    "vpatrol":jroosbxx wrote:
    combined total of 22 players was stated in some media involving promoters not long ago.  Far too few to have a competitive game at those ticket prices.  Those who know nothing about hockey may feel satisfied with the smoke and mirror show but those who have an inkling about the game won’t be terribly happy me thinks
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    The problem for those who are going and don’t know much about hockey, this could be a very bad introduction to the game, especially with the overhyped promotion it has had.  Someone told me they were scared this could set the growth of hockey back 10 years in NZ.

    And for those who do know hockey are potentially going to be very disappointed at what they paid a lot of money for.

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    "vpatrol":36a3eygl wrote:
    that would be the full roster.  only 10 skaters per side
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    I did ask the promoter if this was the full roster, no reply, I think this is it.

    in reply to: Canada vs. USA…in New Zealand? #10481
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    Thanks!

    I spoke to the promoter about 2 months ago and managed to get a player list out of him.  Back then there were 16 players, 9 of them were active in the NHL plus 2 retired ex-NHLers and 2 playing in minors with NHL experience.

    His own words were “it’s not about the players involved, it’s about the spectacle” and that’s clearly the case judging by the drop from who they supposedly had signed up 2 months ago to who they have actually coming.  They sold the event on “NHL megastars” and clearly there are none.  The Stanely Cup winner and Olympic medalist is the same person – John Grahame – and he was essentially the back up goalie in both circumstances.

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    I haven’t really seen the full rosters anywhere, only a few players mentioned but here there are.

    CANADA
    Adrian Veideman
    Brent Cullaton
    Derek Armstrong – Captain, 477 NHL games, last in 2010
    Mark Hartigan – 102 NHL games, last in 2008
    Kevin Doell – 8 NHL games, last in 2008
    Aaron MacKenzie – 5 NHL games, last in 2009
    Tommy Frew
    Julian Talbot
    Cam Paddock – 16 NHL games, last in 2008
    Brad Smyth – 88 NHL games, last in 2003
    Andrew Englage

    USA
    Aaron Miller – Captain, 677 NHL games, last in 2008
    Ryan Turek
    Cody Lampl
    Bates Battaglia – 580 NHL games, last in 2007
    Ryan Weston
    Nick Tuzzolino
    Jake Gannon
    Jamie Fritsch
    Anthony Battaglia
    Blake Barkwell
    John Grahame – 224 NHL games, last in 2008

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