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"Chris":80now1p8 wrote:There seems little point in having any surface at all if it doesn’t allow good training for shooting.[/quote:80now1p8]
Well, concrete it isn’t useless, just not perfect. Like Aaron said, there’s no substitute for ice, so anything is going to be a compromise unless we actually installed an ice rink up there which isn’t going to happen.
If we can nets for free, then all we need is a wall (I think) and that’s about it, maybe some extra lighting or atleast a cover over the existing light to prevent it being smashed.
Anyone know where we can get some materials to build a wall cheap or even better, for free? Presumably the wall would need to be fairly strong as it’s going to take a pounding from pucks.
If we got the nets and materials to build a wall we could probably get this thing knocked up fairly quickly and be training on it before the season starts
” title=”Smiley” />Ryan,
Shooting off of concrete isn’t the same as shooting from ice, it does screw your technique up a bit. An epoxy paint surface wouldn’t help that either but it will make it much grippier for inline skates – plain concrete is mega slippery, although it’s not impossible to skate on. The Blenheim inline hockey rink for example has a similar surface, although it isn’t very popular.
Painting the surface would also brighten it up a bit and make it look prettier too. I wouldn’t think it would be worth painting it unless we could do it very cheaply though as the benefit wouldn’t be that great, the purpose of the facility would be mainly for shooting and puck handling which would be just as good on plain concrete as a painted surface – possibly a little better even.
The plastic tiles (Sport Court, Ice Court etc.) give a similar feel to ice when shooting on hence I was suggesting them.
I’m inclining towards having the plain concrete surface as is, with one of those UHMW polyurethane pads for shooting on, like they have at SK8.
Ryan,
PS: If I have time on Sunday I’ll do some more more accurate measurements of the area so we can work out how much netting we need.
Hmm, I was assuming it would be such a specialised type of paint that the average painter wouldn’t know.
From the experts that I have discussed this with (some guys who saw the surface being painted in Christchurch), the paint is specially designed for inline hockey, with a specific amount of additive to give the correct amount of grip, thickness etc. It also needs to be added in quite a few layers to make sure it doesn’t wear out.
But you could well be right, it is paint after all and a paint shop/painter would be a logical place to start! Atleast we know where to go try to scam a cheap paint job
” title=”Smiley” />Ryan,
"Kyle":140tvnju wrote:I’m still voting on the epoxy paint.[/quote:140tvnju]Yeah, I’ve been trying to avoid anything that wont work with ice pucks and epoxy paint definitely wont, they’ll just flip and roll like crazy. It would be very easy to do though, just paint it on and it would likely be cheaper than any of the other options above.
Any idea where you get that stuff from? I had a hunt online but couldn’t much info. about it, presumably because most rinks use Sport or Ice Court.
We could email the NZIHA who will likely be able to point us in the direction if noone on here knows.
Ryan,
UHMW polyurethane is apparently hopeless for use with inline skates so that idea is out of the question. Perhaps the best option may be to just get the netting and wall etc. sorted and worry about the surface afterwards. The surface up there looks okay for use with inline skates, certainly better than asphalt anyway. Unless anyone has a strong view on the surface issue that is.
Now to chase up the netting/wall issue ….
Ryan,
"Kyle":vipcxaub wrote:Can you take the DIHL stuff down off the web site please.[/quote:vipcxaub]Done
er, sure
what is changing? and should I remove it all?
At this stage I’ll just yank the stuff about times and prices and leave the rest
"Kyle":35smpdjg wrote:you damn person who never put in a form for last years DIHL.[/quote:35smpdjg]I’m fairly sure I sent you a new version of the DIHL contact list with Chris’s details on it last year.
Ryan,
I spoke to Deanna Pielak-Jones the other day about what progress had been made on the construction of the shooting gallery/training area.
They asked James Van Leeuwen for a quote on construction costs last year and are waiting to hear back from him.
Their plan is to surround the area with nets rather than walls to keep the puck in and also allow spectators to view without getting hit by pucks. Nets would also likely be significantly cheaper than real walls and have plenty of ‘give’ if you crashed into them. A wall may be necessary for the end of the area though as there’s an air conditioning radiator there which you wouldn’t want to risk any pucks hitting.
Ryan,
I’ve been doing some more research here:
http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/in … ntry404978That Ultra High Molecular Weight (UHMW) polyurethane seems to be a possible option. It’s what the pad at SK8 is made of and is supposedly the best material for using ice pucks on (apart from ice of course!).
I’m not sure how good it is for use with inline skates though, but I suspect it would be adequate. I called up Ryan Wick at SK8 today and he tried an inline skate on it and reckoned it would grip well enough, although it would be hard to gauge accurately without skating flat stick and trying to turn or stop on it.
There are also ice pucks which have pegs added, just like an inline puck, so that they can be used on inline hockey surfaces, there is an example here:
[url:mj01ds5u]http://www.americanhockeycenter.com/hockey_pucks.htm[/url:mj01ds5u]Now the question is … “where the heck do you buy large sheets of UHMW polyurethane?/”
"Azzy77":3p7a916i wrote:I am telling you miniture ice, built like the curling rink so it can frozen and unfrozen is the only way to fly, well skate, if you want to replicate ice nothing beats ice[/quote:3p7a916i]Lol, yes, that would be nice
” title=”Smiley” /> Unfortunately extremely expensive too.Ryan,
That green rubbery stuff was only slippery for some people, presumably because your wheels were doing something weird with it. It was the grippiest stuff I have ever skated on. Nothing else is as grippy apart from maybe polyurethaned wood.
And yeah I’ll have a fit if that stuff got put in there! It’s particularly bad for puck handling and slow as hell for skating on. The concrete underneath would be much better.
"Azzy77":2p8r2t1t wrote:Whats the stuff upstairs at clubs and socs, i was messing round with a ice puck up there during clubs and socs day and it was responding quite well.
it was rubbery[/quote:2p8r2t1t]I assume the puck will come to a stop pretty quickly if you pass it along the surface more than a few meters. Much like how the Dunedin Stadium surface behaved – that green stuff round the ice rink.
It’s also shit to skate on as you sink into it, it’s even worse than the green stuff as the rubber is thicker.
Ryan,
"Tom":1zi6r0c5 wrote:Ultra High Molecular Wieght Polyetheline is supposed to be quite good for pucks
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Does anyone know what type of plastic this Ice Court is ?[/quote:1zi6r0c5]Ice Courts and Sport Courts are made of plastic tiles which clip together. They have holes, dimples and stuff which collect the dust so that roller hockey wheels don’t slip on it. Plus I think the holes help make the puck slide better. I haven’t tried a Sport or Ice Court, just the Palmerston North rink, but the puck definitely slid incredibly well, better than ice infact, albeit I only tried it with inline pucks not a big fat rubber ice hockey puck.
"Chris":1zvm4vog wrote:Cascading StyleSheets freak me out, which is why mine is as basic as I can get away with! :lol:[/quote:1zvm4vog]They’re easy once you get your head round how they work.
I can rip through your code with a fine tooth comb and point out how to fix all the bugs if you want (there’s quite a few in there – I had a look the other day). I find that’s the easiest way to learn this stuff. I gave this site to a bunch of nerds I found on the net about 8 months ago and got back a few 5 page documents outlining various corrections! I learned more from that than I ever did just practicing by myself.
Ryan,
