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"Blackie Ducks Forever":2cl6bncr wrote:look if your so upset about how much its going to cost with fees then take the club out of the pic. book some ice time from the rink set up a reg night get the players in for a price that you thinks fair and run the thing your self.[/quote:2cl6bncr]
Creating a new league to circumvent the work of the DIHA is an utterly stupid idea IMO. All it would do is drive up costs for non-DIHL players which is creating an entirely new problem. We’re suggesting ways to grow the club, not compete against it. Helping to improve the way the DIHA does things is much more productive way of doing things.
And private ice time is too expensive so it would end up costing more in total anyway.
FYI, Kyles recent forum posts made me think of revisiting this … http://dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi/forum/ind … g10570#new
Those posts are basically just a rehash of the minutes I assume, so I was thinking that perhaps Kyles rehash should be added as news items with a link to a PDF of the minutes each month.
Thanks. I’ll get in touch with her then.
Although from what I saw, YouTube doesn’t allow multiple users to contribute to a single channel
” title=”Sad” />I setup a pseudo-official DIHA page on FaceBook a while ago, so she may want to take control of that too.
"Kyle":3idfhp8j wrote:All the same, I’d be tempted to go with youtube. We should have our own youtube channel and you should be able to go to that one place for all videos that get uploaded, rather than having them under 10 different usernames. There’s a promotional aspect to youtube that we should use, which we wouldn’t get with vidller.
[/quote:3idfhp8j]I’ve been pondering this during the week and have decided that I agree.
Any volunteers to sort out a DIHA YouTube channel?
I’m assuming we can give multiple people access to the same channel? Ie: multiple people can upload the videos? We don’t want to lump one person with the responsibility of uploading ALL videos as they’re a PITA to upload.
"vpatrol":ps0t0ft2 wrote:I probably won’t be at the AGM next year so who really cares what I say though.” title=”Sad” />
[/quote:ps0t0ft2]But you can convince those who do go to the AGM to side with your views
” title=”Smiley” />One of those cheap nasty $300 TV’s at the Warehouse would be okay if no one finds something for free.
Moving a TV to and fro from the rink isn’t really a viable option for anything more than the occasional major game.
The rink should probably buy a big LCD TV and have it playing video footage of various sports played at the rink full-time to try and get randoms coming in interested in the various sports played here.
I agree that those wanting to change things should go to the AGM. But they also need discussed before hand, which is what is being done here. The AGM is for voting on the final setup, not to have a huge debate (I assume) over the merits of the various options available.
I have a vague memory of James van Leeuwen having one. Perhaps it was him who supplied the one for Joe’s going away party?
I agree with most of what Aaron has just outlined. The club can bring in the same amount of money in total without charging people a huge upfront fee like this. Just bump up the cost for ice time and you can cover it all but have it spread throughout the year, not in one big lump that you need to pay regardless of how often you use it or whether you can afford in one giant lump like that.
What happens if I start playing in September? Do I need to pay full registration despite only playing for a month or two at the end of the year? It all seems rather silly to me. I’ve never really liked this way of doing things. For organisations like the CIHA it makes sense to hike up prices, they already have too many members as it is so they can afford to weed out the unserious ones, the DIHA is not in this situation.
I remember the DIHL got butchered in numbers a year or so because of this. The DIHL A-grade had four teams and B-grade 6 teams. However we actually had enough players for 10 teams we just overloaded the B-grade and then started turning players away. However the next season the numbers plummeted as soon as the fees were hiked up and the league was down to 8 teams, some of which were very lean on players and that was with a much lower upfront cost than this most recent one (I think). It wasn’t that the fees couldnt be higher, it’s just that there is a whole extra lump of cash someone needs to play to compete for a brief period of time, particularly if it isn’t clear what they’ll get for their money which is the case at the moment.
The cost to play one season of DIHL would be more than I have ever paid (per game) to compete in a hockey league ever. $170 for seven games is far too steep IMO, that’s +$24/game. That includes the Christchurch SNC, Christchurch inline hockey interclub league and two different leagues in Canada.
The reasoning back at the time (which seemed to have no logic IMO) was that we needed as many formal NZIHF and SIHL members as possible for funding purposes. However AFAIK there are no funding organisations which require information about how many official NZIHF/SIHL members we have anyway, they just care about the total number.
IMO, there should be a flat fee, then the NZIHF/SIHL fees should be paid by the club for those members who need it. That way players aren’t discouraged from competing at a higher level, particularly if it is only for a game or two (imagine if your team needed one extra player for a game and you had to expect that player to cough up an extra ~$50 just for the privledge – it aint gonna happen). It wouldn’t cost the club a cent as they’d just bump the fees up a notch to compensate and the only people who would miss out are those who aren’t playing in NZIHF sanctioned events (but they’re presumably already paying that anyway if they’re expected to pay full fees).
From what I’ve heard through the grapevine, Queenstown, Alexandra, Gore and Maniototo don’t force their members to pay NZIHF and SIHL fees. I’m not sure about the AIHA, Christchurch SNC or CIHA.
"Kyle":45609qu8 wrote:Taiwan is the island I think? The country is called Republic of China?
[/quote:45609qu8]Hmmm, well that makes a little more sense then. Would be weird to have two China’s.
"Kyle":27knv33r wrote:No I mean its dimensions are larger, I didn’t check file size.
[/quote:27knv33r]I meant the dimensions also. I haven’t checked the file size either.
I meant I made the Viddler the size larger (in dimensions) since it could be viewed at a larger size without becoming distorted.
"Chris":3desq7yw wrote:[quote:3desq7yw]Chinese Taipei[/quote:3desq7yw]Does it bother anyone else that the Chinese continually pressure international organisations into banning the use of the name “Taiwan” or “the ROC”?
[/quote:3desq7yw]I had no idea Chinese Taipei was actually Taiwan. Who the hell decided to let China decide what the Taiwanese team is called? That is kinda retarded IMO. Is this common in sport? I’ve heard the name Chinese Taipei before but never realised what it meant.
Imagine if Australia told the IIHF that the Ice Blacks are to be called the Australian Ice Kangaroos! I think we’d be more than a little pissed about it.
