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"Michael":27k0qiyh wrote:I will consider buying a pair if this is going to be a regular thing.
[/quote:27k0qiyh]We played quite a lot last summer, albeit mainly outside.
Ryan,
"Michael":r1023559 wrote:I’d be keen, so long as I can borrow skates
[/quote:r1023559]I’ve given a pair of size 10 (I think) skates to Callan to use. If he doesn’t come you are welcome to use them if they fit. They’re Hi-lo Bauer Vapors, not sure what model.
Ryan,
Good idea Tom.
Kyle, can you book us in? Plus I think I still need to pay for the previous session we had there.
A weekend slot would suit me good but Tuesdays will shortly be a bad night for a few of us (summer field hockey). Thursdays are likely to have practices for another month or so and Wednesdays is the DIHL … so preferably not at any of those times.
"Chris":1exp06qc wrote:umm, if we have the numbers for inline, why wouldn’t we just train at the rink?That way, at least the rink gets our money, rather than the caledonian
[/quote:1exp06qc]Coz some of us actually enjoy playing both sports and the Caledonian is WAYY cheaper than the ice rink. We need about 15 people to justify using the ice rink, but only need about three for the Caledonian gym as it is only about $25/hour (or there abouts) instead of $150/hour at the ice rink.
Ryan,
I don’t get it either Chris. Could you give an example of exactly what we need to type in to get NHL videos.
thanks,
RyanI think the address for the site I’ve used was http://www.cif-forums.com. It seems to be down at the moment though. They’ve been having all sorts of internal squabbles between their site admin and the whole site dissapeared for a few months a while back, hopefully that hasn’t happened again! It’s not a download site though, but has a whole heap of links to downloads and torrent files.
The sticking point though, is that you need a login to use it and only some users have the ability to invite new users. Tom Wilson was using my login a while back, so you could ask him if he has any invites to give out yet.
Ryan,
"Kyle":1le2fccr wrote:That hasn’t been on Sunday for… months.[/quote:1le2fccr]Not quite, the Saturday game was a DIHA thing which I assume was cancelled. Sunday game is a Graeme Phipps-Black thing.
Ryan,
"Chris":wpjdl66j wrote:I would be in favour of writing on the slip “If there’s anyone you really don’t want to play with, you must contact the DIHL organizer IN WRITING by x date”[/quote:wpjdl66j]Something like that sounds reasonable to me. Takes up less space on the form and avoids people randomly jotting down a big annoying list of people as most people wont bother. But still lets them know it’s an option.
Ryan,
[b:36e57jt5]A suggestion for the pile of DIHL changes for 2008:[/b:36e57jt5]
I’ve received three complaints from players in the past two weeks about them not being happy with whose on their team. They said they didn’t realise (or it didn’t occur to them) that they could request to [b:36e57jt5]not[/b:36e57jt5] be on the same team as certain people.So … my suggestion is to add a section on the individuals rego form for listing players you do or do not want to play with, with a proviso saying that “we’ll do our best, but not all player combinations are possible due to bla bla bla …”.
Ryan,
"twolefts":16u4sazr wrote:Chris’ idea of chalk signs is interesting, we need slogans! : Get rough – play ice hockey – visit http://www.dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi![/quote:16u4sazr]That’s a really cheap way to advertise too. Just need some chalkers and some chalk. We should ask the DIHA for some chalk for next year.
Do people normally ask permission first? Or do they just grab some chalk and start chalkin’?
"twolefts":16u4sazr wrote:I’m thinking of being a walking billboard for womans hockey, on a t-sirt : [/quote:16u4sazr]We’ll hopefully have some DIHA T-shirts for sale once the branding side of things is sorted. Possibly other items like hoodies, caps etc. too. And everyone (or at least those who have talked to me about this stuff) seems keen to have dunedinicehockey.hellyer.kiwi somewhere prominent on everything.
Ryan,
FYI, I always found that having a constant supply of posters up up around campus helped a bundle with recruiting players. Of course you then have the problem of convincing someone to do that job. I haven’t seen it done properly (ie: plastered pretty much everywhere for ages) as it takes quite a while to go round putting them up and most people seem to give up after they’ve done a few poster boards. But when it is done over say a month long period, I’ve usually picked up an extra 20 players or so, 10 of which dissapear after a few weeks and 5 of which dissapear after a month. Then if you are lucky the remaining 5 stick around long term.
It takes a crapload of work though, coz not only do you need to put the posters up, but it pays to go around adjusting them each day, making sure they’re on the top of the heap and not lost somewhere underneath a bunch of new posters or that the tags on the bottom have all been ripped off.
It’s an approach that does seem to be quite effective though and you can measure how effective it is by asking new players where they found out about the sport from and from the number of phone calls and emails you receive. For the record, putting posters up in Supermarkets is highly ineffective in my experience and posters in schools usually don’t work unless you personally arrive on their doorstep and ask if you can put them up and if not ask where the appropriate place for them to go and ask them when they’ll be put up in the vain hope that they don’t get filed in the trash (I suspect this is usually what happened when they were emailed, faxed or posted).
Oh yeah, the posters seem to need to emphasise the whole beginner aspect of it. I never got much success from posters which didn’t have “BEGINNERS WELCOME” in big giant writing somewhere.
Ryan,
"Chris":14yvq0y8 wrote:Well, it seems that all our problems have rolled into one bigger problem: numbersIt seemeth to me that if we had the numbers, separating by age would have no overall detrimental effect.
So, do you guys think that Kurt/Cy’s methods (I have no idea who these guys are btw – before my time) could be re-introduced to get more players?
[/quote:14yvq0y8]Some things yes, particularly the promotional side of things. The social function organising side of things would be much trickier, Cy was a professional at this sort of thing and could get incredibly good deals on venues, bar deals and so forth, plus he was just generally good at it. And, if there’s kids allowed it completely throws a spanner in the works as you are immediately limiting who can attend which is a little unfair. Or even if they are allowed to attend, it’ll need to be a different type of event.
Ryan,
"Azzy77":14ez7w1j wrote:I not sure but I think Deanna (Canadain one, not Phil’s wife) was found there, abliet Megan may have persuaded her further[/quote:14ez7w1j]Yep. Megan got her to play once I think, then Bode convinced her to keep coming along.
[b:14ez7w1j]From MSN:
[/b:14ez7w1j]"Deanna":14ez7w1j wrote:[size=3:14ez7w1j]Hi everyone![/size:14ez7w1j]Ryan pass that onto the Dunedin hockey crew please
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xoxox Deanna[/quote:14ez7w1j]"Azzy77":14ez7w1j wrote:Keith is planning on using some of his fake ice on the back of a truck to promote ice hockey, and figure skating, he hopes to do demos at octagon, and etc[/quote:14ez7w1j]Cool, great idea.
"Azzy77":14ez7w1j wrote:Personally I found the old DiHL more enjoyable, no offense to those guys running it now, cos different strokes and all that….[/quote:14ez7w1j]I found the old ‘Cy and Kurt’ DIHL more enjoyable. But I prefer the seperate grade system and most of the B-graders seem to too.
"Azzy77":14ez7w1j wrote:But new A grade DiHL is a bit competitive for me, I enojyed the old laid-back, mixed up DiHL, were you didn’t have Dynasty teams, coming back year after year, like the Phantoms, which who are we kidding here makes a bit of a mockery of the grading system…..[/quote:14ez7w1j]That’s because the Phantoms weren’t forced to go through the drafting procedure. If they were, they would have been severely crippled last season. If the regulations are followed, the teams should all even themselves out eventually and in general the stronger teams will be weakened each season.
"Azzy77":14ez7w1j wrote:Then people turned up to the end of season social event cos, everyone, well most people were over 18, and it was held at various places, instead of curlers backroom, one year it was at Carisbrook (I kid you not)
And another time, we played NHL 2002, all night….[/quote:14ez7w1j]Yep, Cy and Kurt had that side of things down pat. I went to the one at Carisbrook, it was totally awesome, although I did get [b:14ez7w1j]WAYYY[/b:14ez7w1j] too drunk. I’ve asked around a few times but never been able to find anyone willing to organise a social function. Organising social functions isn’t my thing really, I’m pretty crappy at it.
Ryan,
"Kyle":1x4lbirs wrote:I’ve always viewed the DIHL as picking up people who at the very least, have been to beginners a few times. It’s the role of the club as a whole to bring in those people to the beginners sessions.[/quote:1x4lbirs]Yes and no I think. I’d guess about 1/3 of the players in the DIHL I played at in the Big Chill were brand new players, some went to Sunday night social a few times first, some were still trying to figure out which way you hold the stick when they got on the ice. Many were more interested in treating it as a big social even, not …
… cut short …. will finish this after I’ve played hockey … with the peewees
” title=”Tongue” />You guys are selling me on the size issue a bit. Albeit some of the peewees are quite a bit smaller than both Bode and Kara.
Perhaps a better approach would be to market the league more heavily to the older players. This was done quite effectively by Cy and Kurt by really pounding away at recruiting new adult players. They also organised a lot of social events which have never happened with the new version of the league, albeit Cy actually organised (and still does I think) social events for a living so was unsurprisingly quite good at it.
Ultimately I’d like to see a whole swathe of competitive peewee, midget, junior and adult leagues and have a social grade where anybody could compete which would cover the whole social kids wanting to play with parents side of things. We’re a wee way from getting to that level yet though unfortunately.
Ryan,
"Kyle":203zq8a1 wrote:Even if all the adult A and B graders signed up, we couldn’t have anywhere near that many teams now. We don’t have the students playing, people aren’t taking up ice hockey much socially as young adults.[/quote:203zq8a1]Yep, and younger players I suspect is one of the reasons why they aren’t signing up. That and Cy and Kurt put more effort into recruiting them which we’ve failed miserably at in recent years. I don’t see any issue in getting at least four teams of 18 plus year olds for a B-grade league. And dropping the age limit to 16 would pump a bunch more in there. I reckon six teams is doable if enough effort was put into it.
And if anyone doesn’t like us debating this issue, then just ignore us. You don’t need to read our dribbling.
Ryan,
PS: Max teams ever in the old DIHL was eight I think.
