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Kyle
MemberI think if there was to be any advertising on the site, and I’m not sure there should be, that it should go towards paying for the site first.
Kyle
MemberWell, we’ve never run the draft pool, so no, Stefan didn’t pick up his people from there. The Phantoms team has changed managers, and most of their players. From their team last year, only Stefan, Darcy, and Zanzee are still Phantoms. Nick was a Phantom last year, but to be honest, I think he only played 3 games, so Mark Dudley was as much a Phantom as him. There’s people who were phantoms last year who haven’t been invited to play this year, which they surely should have been if it’s the same team.
I’ve treated it as a new team. The original team that was submitted to me had one player who didn’t want to play in the dihl, and one player who was signed up for another team. I replaced them with weaker players, and swapped over the goalie. That brought the grade down to an appropriate level. They have the players that they have because those are the ones that they picked. If other people want to pick certain players, they need to organise their own teams otherwise they’ll get whatever strange lineups I come up with
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The Phantoms’ final grade was 7.45 I think. That’s well below the requirement on the event notice. I worked with Stefan to bump it right down to try and keep balance with the Sharks and Bullfrogs.
I don’t think people should take too much notice of Tuesday’s game. Johnnies OB entered a team with an average grade well below 7. They then lost 3 of their top five players for the first game, and replaced them with B graders. You can’t turn up to an A grade competition where all the teams are graded in the 7s, and play a team whose average grading probably would have ended up in the 5s. That’s too big a gap, and it showed exactly why the grading system works – if you looked at the grading numbers on the rosters before the game, you could predict it was going to be a blowout, even if you didn’t know any of the players.
This Tuesday should be a better matchup. They’re playing the sharks, who have picked up Garett and Sam on their original roster.
Kyle
MemberI’d be curious to know if any of the Ice Blacks were there. A couple of people I talked to were wondering whether any would come or if it would be the same team that they played a couple of weeks ago.
Either way, 3-0 to Dunedin is a strong result, nice job prem team.
Kyle
MemberI can’t help with the Rangers. I left the dunedin-gore game at the end of the 2nd period to go pick up my son.
Dunedin was up 11-1. 8 Unanswered goals in the 2nd period, they were really starting to fire.
Kyle
MemberI would agree with you that the Western Conference is stronger than the Eastern conference. I wonder if there’s any stats out there on which team wins more – a western team or an eastern team, when games are cross-conference?
However my impression is that it’s been that way for a number of years now – at least since I started following hockey, which was 2002-2003. If that’s correct, then the winners of the cup don’t necessarily follow. During that time, the cup winners have all been Eastern conference teams (2001 – 2 Detroit won it, and certainly before this time Western teams dominate for a number of years).
So while the conference overall might be stronger in the West, I still think it’s pretty reasonable to pick an Eastern team. Obviously this is all just speculation for a few more weeks, as there won’t be any cross-conference games until the cup games.
Kyle
MemberIt’s like dueling youtube videos. I think Tom has walked all over you unless you’ve got something to counter that last one sorry Stefan.
Kyle
MemberHeh. Gotta love that ask a question, say what you think the answer is, and then tell someone who says the other answer that they’re wrong
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Kyle
Member"Joe":2d2slkd8 wrote:Crosby.
Ovechkin puts on a better show but Crosby will win more games for his team.[/quote:2d2slkd8]Always nice to have your own personal batch of snapshots to bring out Joe!
Kyle
MemberI don’t get to watch much NHL at all, so I couldn’t give a technical opinion.
My impression is that Crosby is seen as the most exciting player to enter the NHL in a fair while. Everyone’s talking about him, and he’s more inspiring for young people than anyone else. To me, when you’re talking about relatives between the very best, those are the things you look for. Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Jonah Lomu, Pele – they were all the biggest things their sport had seen, and they crossed boundaries between countries/professional teams etc. I think at the top level, that’s what you look for to distinguish between several ‘great’ players into the ‘legend’ territory.
Whether or not Crosby’s hype over Ovechkin is just because he’s Canadian, not Russian… who knows? Our NZ view of ice hockey is seen very much through a North American lens, Europeans might view the picture differently.
Kyle
MemberAlrighty. B Grade week 4.
We’ve finished the first round, and the teams are starting to rank up. Kings have come through the pack, and are well-improved over last year. Three victories from three games. Beasts are nicely lodged in second place, with a couple of wins. Johnnies and Bears are tussling on third equal – that draw last week hasn’t resolved anything. The teams have all had time to settle in and sort out what they’re doing, it’s heading to the business end of the league, things should settle down for some good hockey.
First up, Beasts taking on JMs. Beasts took this game first up, they’ll be looking for a solid repeat performance to lock them into the top half of the table. Johnnies were disappointed with their first up game – they started well enough, with a couple of early goals, but fell away after that and let the Beasts get back into it and overtake them. They’ll be fired up this week though, and know that they must win this game if they want to be in the final in three weeks. A couple of their guys played in the A grade game on Tuesday, which is only going to be good for them now they’re playing back down – watch for them to be fired up and skating fast. Beasts will be looking to get back on track after falling over a bit last week against Kings. If they get their lines working right, and work hard, they’re going to be hard to beat. Kyle’s pick: Beasts 5-4 – close match, but Beasts take it out in the end.
Bears vs Kings. Bears went down 5-0 in this matchup first time around. They’re a better team now, and will be hoping to get closer. Key for Bears – do something that Beasts failed to do last week, shut down Harrison King, who’s playing well and getting a lot of non-assisted goals, particularly from faceoffs. Key for Kings – they’ve been playing well, so keeping on a roll is the key for them. Good defence, solid offence, there’s some pacey skaters on the team and they’re looking to lock in that finals spot tonight, a couple of weeks early. My pick – 6-2 to Kings.
Remember, games start at 7pm and 8:10 pm from now on, but the timetable hasn’t changed from the original schedule, it’s just later.
Edit by Ryan – DIHL B-grade schedule: [url:399teheh]http://www.dunedinicehockey.co.nz/documents/dihlscheduleautumn07.pdf[/url:399teheh]
Kyle
MemberAh, nothing to do with DIHL then, that’s good.
That was always going to be happening at some stage. People should be paying in bulk advance for practices I believe is the policy. The prems had to shell out a significant amount of money recently I believe.
I’m still waiting on the peewees one to turn up, but thankfully that’s going to be much cheaper.
Kyle
Member"Janey":23fjyuff wrote:Wanna here a funny joke?
A student Paying 250 bucks to be part of womens Dunedin ice hockey team and what ever it costs for them to be in the SIHL as well as 250 bucks for a DIHL team …
esspecially when you course requires you on placement for 8 weeks at the end of the year and 3 weeks in the middle….
just thought I might complain about my wee issues…. and i thought field hockey was dear!…[/quote:23fjyuff]If your DIHL team is charging you $250 then call the police.
I presume $250 includes your SIHL beasts games.
Kyle
MemberYeah. The Johnnies team picked it up a lot in the 3rd period, and you were winning that period 1-0 for quite a while before Phantoms got back on top in the last five minutes or so. I thought some of your team were suffering a bit of ‘shock and awe’ in the first part of the game to use a military term, and once they were out there going hell for leather, they looked a lot better. It’s also the first game for a new team.
We’ve picked up a bit of help for them for the rest of the DIHL, in the form of Steve Jackson, possibly job-sharing with Mike Sam. We’ll slot them in place of Dwayne Cleugh who has had to pull out.
Still working on the goalie, if we can get that sorted your team will have a much healthier look about it. and my Bullfrogs will be in for a good game against them next week.
Kyle
Member"leftright":3sdn9rzt wrote:The concrete is 100mm thick and a new ice slab would be 225mm thick above that. But there is no point in building another mini rink. Its not commercially viable and would have limited use and besides theres a very large rink in the building already!. Why would you want another piddly poo one. Stupid idea if I may say so myself.[/quote:3sdn9rzt]There ya go Jack. Yer a ning nong
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Kyle
Member"Ryan":2wfurglb wrote:"Kyle":2wfurglb wrote:Well, probably slim to none, as while hypothetically someone could raise the money, there’s nowhere left in the building left to lay ice. Unless someone wants to run all the curlers out of town, but I can’t imagine that Neil would look on that too kindly.[/quote:2wfurglb]Untrue, there’s also the other side of the cooling tower which is (I think) exactly the same size as the end we’re using for the existing gallery. Plus there’s the bowls hall upstairs at the front of the building
” title=”Smiley” /> I don’t see either of those options coming to fruition any time soon though
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I’m no expert on laying down ice, but I can’t imagine that either of those spaces would work very easily. You couldn’t put pipes inside the existing floor, so you’d need to put pipes in sand or concrete on top of the existing floor and then ice on top of that. It’d end up going up a couple of feet, and there’s not much room in there to do that. I presume the floor would hold how ever many tonnes of weight a mini-ice rink weighs, but that’d be another question to be answered.
That’s if you can even get the pipes up there. That floor must be at least a foot thick. And the bowls hall is at the other end of the building from the cooling unit, they’d have to lay pipes of about a hundred metres or put in an additional unit for it.
I was thinking of the trouble the SNC practice has been having with the defensive zone stuff that Jenel has been trying to teach. The off ice area would be ideal for that, if it was just a little bit bigger. Get everyone to turn up early and go up there and just have people in their shoes, throwing around a tennis ball for the puck.
But it’d need to be about five metres wider
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