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Yeah I can’t see, but that’s what came to mind watching it, and I can’t see any other reason why they didn’t award it. Did the referees give a reason why it wasn’t given?
It looks like the puck touches the goalie’s stick and then gareth pushes it into the net. Difficult to tell though from so far away.
If that’s what happened, no goal. That’s a rebound, can’t score off a rebound in a shot.
I’m thinking both seasons will be split. Because that’ll make all eyes on Christchurch next weekend to see if Devils can beat Thunder to get through. Thunder been good on the road after all.
Admirals and Red Devils really control their destiny here. Admirals are ahead but Devils have games in hand. – Admirals have the final bye, so this is their last chance for points.
If a team wins both games they’re through no matter what happens next week, though to guarantee that both teams need to win one game in regulation. Devils obviously have games against Thunder the weekend after, so if the series is split Devils can take points there and get through.
For Stampede and Thunder to have a chance, they have to win all their remaining games for starters, preferably in regulation. And they probably need Devils to win one of the games against Admirals, and then lose to Thunder both times.
Could easily be an all-Auckland final, the shame of it!
"Ryan":2hee9473 wrote:I had exactly the same response whilst being told while driving along in a car. It seemed I was the only one who thought it was hilarious. Apparently I am “sick and twisted” for laughing at it. I was also the only male in the car; not sure if that had any bearing on my being the only one there who thought it was funny.
[/quote:2hee9473]The two teams had an all-in brawl which cleared both benches the next morning at the end of the game. There was no hand shake. There were more scuffles behind the scorebox when both teams were heading to their changing rooms after the game, and then again in the foyer entrance to the rink after they got changed. Idiotic stupid stuff that put a downer on what had otherwise been a fantastic tournament and great promotion for the sport.
What happened the night before was no doubt a factor in all that.
Peewees:
Friday Auckland beat Southern 8-3, then beat Canterbury (11-0?).
Saturday Southern beat Canterbury 11-1, then lost to Auckland 7 – 4.
Sunday Auckland beat Canterbury 9-5, then Southern beat Canterbury 10-1.The Saturday afternoon game between Auckland and Southern was a hell of a game. We were 3-2 ahead at one stage early in the second, finished that period two goals down, couldn’t get it back in the third and then the penalty box let their player out early and they scored with about 30 seconds to go. Kids gave it all.
Auckland brought a very good team, three of their kids on their top line got MVP awards, 10 year old goalie Drew Kinney from Southern picked up the goalie award – 86% save percentage, 0.64 shots per minute, he had a fantastic tournament.
I don’t think complaints is the right avenue. Aston might post and say that the referee in Auckland had a shocking game, but without seeing the actual game, and probably hearing what was said to benches and the scorebox, in most cases you can’t tell whether that’s correct or not. If it was videoed that would help, but until we get all our games recorded for TV that’s too difficult.
I think a better system is having each official assessed by a head official each season. Twice if they both line and referee so they get assessed at both. At the higher level (national league for example), I’d suggest that the supervisor should get feedback from the scorebox and both coaches as part of that assessment.
The assessments should be private, but they should have consequences – if you get a bad assessment you get a second one done next game and must do better or you get pulled.
Two years ago DIHA devised an officials evaluation system. The form we devised is attached – it’s based on one I found overseas.
The idea is that active officials will be evaluated twice a season by a senior official in order to remain on the active roster.
If you fail an assessment you get a report of things to work on, you then get assessed a month later and if you fail again you get put on the inactive list and have to work your way back on.
Senior officials assess each other, but it’s more a peer assessment than mentor assessment.
We haven’t really been able to put the system into place due to lack of human resources.
Tied with it was a strategic officiating plan which dealt with bringing in senior officials from elsewhere and sending referees who want to develop to higher levels north or possibly overseas to do games under supervision, etc.
"thirteen":1ummwwx4 wrote:ie; an off side (which wasnt off side by the way) when they had a clear shot at net. whats this about? one player had the puck, carried it across blue line, thunder defenseman made a poke check, puck went to trailing swarm foward, who was onside, then the whistle blew for offside… terrible
[/quote:1ummwwx4]I was in the swarm penalty box when this call was made and the swarm coach was telling his players to shut up, that it was clearly offside. He said [in that great accent] “shut up already! It was clearly a mile offside.”
It was good to see a coach telling his players not to bitch about referees. While I fully understand that players get unhappy about what is either a mistake, or that they think is a mistake, bitching about the referees is a terrible tactic. It’s never going to help your team, and possibly it will hurt it.
Thunder has got good value this season out of Lenstra talking to referees in a positive way and trying to get their concerns across.
No SNC grade, it’s been scrapped and they’re hoping to revive it via a club SNC only tournament.
U13s: These are my kids, they’ve been working hard and I have high hopes for them! Auckland were a different class last year, there was space between them and the other two teams, so if they bring back a similar level team they’ll be very good. Canterbury I’m not sure about at all.
U19s: Southern worked hard to win its first gold last year but has had less training time this year, as trials were very late. There’s certainly the talent there to back up with another gold so it probably depends on how they come together and if Aston’s knee holds out.
Women: Southern women were cheated last year when they had a victory and a draw against Auckland (who won gold), but finished on the same number of points. Last year the next determinant was goal differential, so Southern got silver. If it had been head to head matches they would have taken gold. That ranking system has now changed so head-to-head moved up and goal differential down.
Thunder were distinctly average today and never really looked in the game. Big let down from the heart they showed the night before.
I didn’t see yesterday’s game, but Southern were very impressive this morning. They rattled Auckland with their hitting and looked good all over the ice.
The powerplay goal was two touch passes to the shot and would have looked good on a national league team, let alone U16s.
Southern and Auckland U16s drew 1-1 this afternoon. Rematch on tomorrow morning.
Thunder beat Swarm 5-4 in over time. Wahoo!
