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I think you should have read a couple of posts previously! I conceded that there are times when a better job could have been done, but someone has to play the devils advocate and once again, you are welcome to come out and give it a go before putting your penny in.
Ironically, this type of argument also occurs in the highest level of competition and in every sport too! Check it out in the International Hockey Gang forum, i’m sure that either of you could find it.
I’m really not too concerned what a couple of arm chair referees say, I am more concerned with what my peers do say.
Both coaches spoke freely with the referees after the games over the weekend and only questioned a minor offside situation, which as Kyle said earlier was called correctly.
Think that there are well founded reasons why people leave sports and hockey is no exception, especially at the 17-20 year old players. There are a number of surveys completed and I think that you find that the level of officiating would be well down the list of reasons why they leave the sport.
You would find that sex, booze/drugs, work, study, money (parents not paying) are at the top of those list.
I’m not against international refs coming but am curious to why we would need to do go the expense, we should ask the IIHF to supply mentors/instructors to run courses. there are a number of options available.
If you look at recent ‘professional’ coaches who have worked in the country, I would question how much they actually improved the game? Similar argument for a Ref instructor, it would be better to identify a suitable candidate and send them to an overseas school/camp etc for about 6 months.
Can’t really comment on Polozov’s immigration status, news to me but that would be between him and the Immigration Department.
I think you could have a similar discussion about officials in the western island too!
I, like most other people, would love to go overseas and Ref, play etc but have other committments to met. The main issue is when you return, you will see people drop/return to the local level of play. That overseas hotshot doesn’t seem to even bother towards the end of the season because there little pressure to perform/keep their position in the team with the exception of maybe, Polozov.
I would accept that there have been some incidents recently which could have been handled better by the on-ice officials but until they encounter them, they won’t know their limitations and won’t learn from them. It is a problem that without a good contact league in town, and I know we have discussed this previously at the rink, because it does no-one any favors, refs included.
A lot of people/critics are probably not aware that the officials are peer assessed in Chch and Auck during the Nat Leag, JEL and at Nationals. Being human, there are areas to improve on and we use it often to improve our game We don’t go out to ruin a game the despite what some say, everyone is entitled to their opinion and we would welcome more people to come out and give it a craic!
It is very easy to discuss these situations in a classroom but until they experience it they won’t really know.
It’s the same argument for players, coaches and refs, it would be great to go overseas to get more experience but who is going to pay for it?
Overseas, not only would the Refs get exposed to a much better level of play and coaching, but so would the players and coaches too, and so the story goes on!
The sport has yet to reach a critical mass before we gain any improvement in a number of areas, including referreeing, but with a declining player base we should be concerned with all facets of our game. The country requires to have an addition of at least four more arenas in other city’s before we get any significant progress.
We are on the right path, but if we removed the current topics of conversation, would the viewers be happy with their local guys calling these games and watching the ‘bird’ fly out of the building? I’m sure Kelf would be first to put his hand up to do so!
Why blame the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff? I’m sure we have all seen the same players do the same dumb shit week in, week out and they still haven’t learnt yet? Player education needs to be addressed as well.
Some of the refs that have been slagged off have been to up to 7 IIHF tournaments and they have all got very good reports, clearly the local instructors are doing something right, despite your misguided opinions! You don’t get invited back if you not up to it!
The level to which a Referee could exercise his discretion was removed with implementation of the IIHF standard of play a number of years ago.
More spin from the promoter in The Press today under ‘Friendships go cold when USA, Canada clash’, check it out!
Teams named as well, maybe someone can scan and add it to the thread. 11 man teams = not real hockey!!
Azzy,
You could write yourself in for some guest appearances as yourself!!! That weird goofy side kick who helps out when the story gets a little thin and needs a humor injection!
Blake, from an earlier posting you stated that you were potentially the best Ref in the southern area. You need to change the tints on your glasses from player to referee!
Probably about time you put up and got out there for 60 minutes on the lines rather than being a bookmark to separating the third and forth lines from the first two lines.
Does your physio remove all those splinters gently?
A match report was supplied to the relevant people, they are to arrange a DC hearing before the next game.
If there is to be no further action, then so be it! It was more serious than the 5 + GM situations we had last year, which were only worthy of 5 + GMs.
Thirteen’s quote is reasonably accurate and in his words “And what was with the tripping call on haines when he did what could only be described as an ‘ALMOST’ text book hip check on bertrand? i say almost as JP slipped the check.”
The other player did slip through the check and Berty stuck his other leg out and attempted to slow him down, which is part of tripping!
Emma, you probably couldn’t see that from the other end of the rink.
Granted the linesmen could’ve intervened earlier in both altercations earlier. In the second one, if they had, the only penalties that would have been called would be misconducts.
Thirteen, everyone accepts that they will be assaulted when they play contact sport, hockey
included! Since you have found Brookers, you can find the definition of assault.
