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"Kyle":3mjil81n wrote:"twolefts":3mjil81n wrote:I was surprised to see we only had the option of paying full membership this year though, seams a bit rough on the players just starting out playing hockey, they get 3 practices sessions grace (at drop in price of $15) before they have to decide if they are going to continue, and shell out $400 just to practice on Sundays.
[/quote:3mjil81n]Full season of Sunday night practices are $300, not $400. So that remains $10/session. If you learn fast and get too good for adult beginners you’ll be able to transfer into Monday night SNC. If you arrive late into the season it breaks down into a 3/4, 1/2, and 1/4 season fee.
[/quote:3mjil81n]They still have to register @ $100 on top of their $300 practice fee, and if they get better and transfer to SNC do they have to pay the extra to make up the difference or are they let off that wee bit??? after all, most of them wont have their own gear when they shell out $400 to practice on Sundays… What happened to growing the game?
Middletimers is a game where players from the beginners practice on Sunday get to show off their newly learnt skills in a non-threatening environment (ie. no advanced player who is going to steamroll them while they try to sync skating and standing upright and poking a puck around) Theoretically they do get time on Sunday to do this, but some of them want more time, and an actual game like situation in which to learn how to play the game. This session is aimed at growing the game and improving the game-sense of beginning players (so, no more bee-hive hockey in the DIHL – hopefully) They also have the added benefit of having goalies, which are usually absent at beginner practices. The idea is that more advanced players, such as beginner-intermediate players or nice friendly intermediate and advanced players join up and help these guys get better faster etc etc.
This session sets back a beginner/ Middletimer $160 for 5 games. Thats $12 per game after you take membership out.
I dont fully get why the membership has shot up so much, last year was like $65/75 to do SIHL as well wasn’t it? and there was an option to NOT do SIHL as well? like in other years? I didn’t think much of it at the time (other than ***** thats gone up heeps and i dont think i can afford it) because the DISC prices had shot up dramatically too, for no added benefit to the skater.
"Azzy77":3qk0v0qr wrote:I don’t know but I remember back in the day you just played the DiHL fees and you could play hockey…..Since most of the rego fee is made up of SiHL and NZiHL fees, why on earth would you have to pay full rego to play hockey….
I know for a while the arguement was that it is less complicated when it comes to getting people to play in SiHL or NZiHL tournaments…but honestly when it comes time for those comps you say to people pay to upgrade membership to full status or you don;t play in that comp…
Cos for some people all they want to do is play DiHL and I for one think $170 is far to expensive for 7 games….
Thats my gripe of the week…..
[/quote:3qk0v0qr]I agree, $170 is steep for 7 games of hockey if that is all you are going to do for the year, I can’t change what people have to pay, so its all or nothing, and if we don’t get enough people (72 players minimum) willing to shell out the cash, then there will be no DIHL SNC come May.
I was surprised to see we only had the option of paying full membership this year though, seams a bit rough on the players just starting out playing hockey, they get 3 practices sessions grace (at drop in price of $15) before they have to decide if they are going to continue, and shell out $400 just to practice on Sundays.
Ryan I’m talking about getting the teams even. ie. exactly what Kyle answered. & yes I will be asking other people rather than just doing it myself! its called delegation.
"Kyle":25f83yd6 wrote:Hey Kara,Slap shots. I would say ‘no’. You’ll have people out there without shorts and whatnot, and also it means newer goalies can be more confident about stepping in and facing top level players. [/quote:25f83yd6]
without shorts… i have to say i can’t recall ever seeing anyone play in the B-grade without shorts… shoulderpads and elbow pads yes, but shorts, team mates seam to think shorts are important for people who can’t skate well! But yes you are right, less gear on beginners (and the club goalie gear)+ slap shots = pain."Kyle":25f83yd6 wrote:I found with the open grade, the goalie was such a strong factor. The difference between having a top goalie in your team, vs a kid who is a beginner is massive. Worth about three really good skaters.I would say, depending on the goalie, every team should have 2 or 3 good players, 3 or 4 average ones, and 4 or 5 beginners. Then adjust that depending on how good the goalie is.
[/quote:25f83yd6]I was thinking along these lines, just really wanted someone else’s point of view and also I need to stick this in the event notice. How on earth do I write that? ie. i need to let teams like the Beasts know if they need to shed any top players and how many newbies they need to recruit etc.
Kyle or Ryan or anyone with an opinion, in previous open grade leagues, how was the ratio of A/B grade players decided etc, or what should it be. Also, slap shots. should they be allowed?
"Kyle":2nkdbjsm wrote:I have schedules for 4, 6, 8, and 10 team competitions of various lengths which I drew up when I did DIHL stuff.
[/quote:2nkdbjsm]Kyle, could I have a copy of your 4 and 6 team schedules please so I can compare the ones i drew up (I’ve never done a schedule before and just wont to check them against proven schedules)
"Kyle":xtqd6ei8 wrote:Or alternatively you could run an open DIHL, which I think a lot of people would like to have again, where the teams are mixed together from everyone, beginner to ice black.[/quote:xtqd6ei8]
I think this would be great, it tends to be more fun.
I asked around at that game way back in November, and it seems that everyone wants to play hockey, but not help making hockey happen….
Anyway, apparently Dave Craw wants to help, and I’m still keen to organise at least the B-grade if there is someone to do the A-grade.
Since Larry did most of last years organising at committee level (I did most of the team stuff) I don’t really know were to start, who to talk too etc.
"Jack":3dnawxci wrote:you guys can have rob
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[/quote:3dnawxci]Rob never replied to any of my texts or emails, is he actually playing tonight?
Sure as guys, as the Beasts have begun poaching Bullfrogs players we need all the outside help we can get!! Dan, Regan and redrasta, you are all welcome! The game is at 6.30 and is only $10.
Tom – awesome
Ryan – funny
Darcy – cool
Kyle – if you want to ref then you can; if not, then you can play out if you want?
