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vpatrolMember"Active":1p3ghrcb wrote:A point that hasnt being made is who wants to be a good referee. WHen you look at the makeup of a good ref he need a number of atrtributes ie, good skating skills, the neccesity to learn and remember large amounts of information, ability to make istantaneous decisions and application of information learned, impartiality, lots of experience reffing, cool head, the ability to distance yourself from your supposed friends, thick skinned not to mention that people need to respect you as a person in everyday life. When you throw in the fact that its far more fun to play hockey than to be the target of abuse It all adds up to a dwindled supply of who wants to be a good ref anyway. They are in short supply right from the start
[/quote:1p3ghrcb]I was trying to get at that when i mentioned reffing personality. Those inter personal skills that are needed. They can be developed but obviously when recruiting new refs, I think that potential should be included in the criteria. I think those who have the potential to be our better refs will show themselves as will those who can’t handle it. How to get those people in the first place, that’s another question entirely as you suggest.
vpatrolMemberyeah that’s good!
vpatrolMemberand no white helmets on tall refs!
vpatrolMember"aston head of statistics":1rfj86rn wrote:fruck was intended
i know theres some hard core Christians on here
[/quote:1rfj86rn]I doubt that however I don’t think we should push away any potential christians who might otherwise have come to the forum. God loves the Edmonton Oilers by the way. He’s making them suffer like Job at the moment.
vpatrolMemberI think video analysis is a must. Not just to critique the refs involved, but also as a tool for refs in training so they can critique it.
Instead of just focussing on rule memory and application, I would also like to see a way of developing and monitoring what I call a refs on-ice personality (for lack of a better term).
How they control the game and interact with players and how they decide what calls are appropriate at what time is a skill that is difficult to master. NHL refs mess it up from time to time so our guys have some room to grow. How to improve this is hard to imagine. I would like to see expert refs from other areas come. Not just send a few refs to do a seminar and come back and teach what they’ve learned. But for many refs to hear it right from the experts themselves. I don’t think its an insult to say our refs aren’t the best in the world. Our level of competition wouldn’t allow it. So let’s bring some people in who are way above what we are used to and it should pay dividends. I personally am willing to pay extra to have better refs. I just want to know where the money is going for accountibility purposes etc.
vpatrolMember"Ryan":1xo266io wrote:I would have thought the issue of a shortage of referees at all was more dire than a shortage of highly trained referees – at least in Dunedin it seems to be. We certainly have more referees down here than we had a few years ago (ie: we had none at all), but there always seems to be an issue of scratching together someone till fill in at the last minute.[/quote:1xo266io]
I think increasing ref numbers doesn’t need a major shift in policy. #’s in Canty seem ok and Dunedin by your admission has increased #’s in the past few years. Certainly you want a steady stream of refs coming in but that’s not the issue I want to address. Grass roots development is an absolute must for players but it doesn’t mean screw the current Ice Blacks. Same for refs. Get the numbers up but increase the top end skill level too. Growth needs to happen across the board.
vpatrolMembertraining new refs to a minimum level is not the issue I’m getting at. Making our primary refs much better needs a top down approach. I’m talking about raising the ceiling of the skill level at the top level. Increasing numbers at the low end increases the potential talent pool but its not going to have the same effect as having more players and increasing the chance of a superstar emerging.
vpatrolMemberHeard thunder had 2 in the box and swarm had 1. A 5-3 was given and partly played until a complaint was heard and the right call was made, being a 5-4. There’s some extra seats in a year 9 maths class I often teach if these guys want to sit in for a bit. No charge.
vpatrolMemberwhat about giving a team a 5-3 instead of a 5-4? Can the ref change that rule on the fly?
vpatrolMemberAny win achieved by a team in red, yellow, white or blue shall in fact be a victory for the green team regardless of whether they are playing or not.
vpatrolMemberI like the 10 minute overtime. It’s fun when rules are made up as you go along. It’s like when you are 5 years old.
vpatrolMemberAdmirals won 4-3 to take over 2nd spot. Red Devils have 2 games at hand.
Swarm are a confirmed finalist. They are playing for a home final with the Devils and Admirals next match being the biggest two games of the year.
vpatrolMemberI heard it was more lopsided than the score suggests. A huge imbalance of shots apparently. Hopefully someone has details.
vpatrolMember"Gasman":lyhn31dc wrote:Guess I needed a *, with a footnote and a big explination.[/quote:lyhn31dc]
or work out 5 separate point table scenarios assuming all other teams run the board? Technically all teams are in control of their destiny at the moment. Not all have supporters as fervent as you though. ” title=”Smiley” />
Let’s see if Polozov plays today. He’s a key piece to the Swarm offence. He would have been missed yesterday.
vpatrolMemberso not so much “maximum points available” then? ” title=”Wink” />
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