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in the refs defence, I don’t think auckland has a contact league and christchurch doesn’t either. Southern refs are primarily from Christchurch and with a number of new linesmen, its a pretty big jump from reffing snc to the speed of nzihl. I think they will get better in time with more experience but they do get thrown in the deepend. In an ideal world, we would have a large pool of refs and the best can be picked from there. We just don’t have enough games/leagues to support that many though.
I do like the idea of overseas refs coming to run clinics/seminars though. I’ve been tinkering with the idea over the last few weeks and have talked to a few remaining contacts from back home about it too.
Devils win 7-4 in a feisty affair. Refs didn’t have their greatest game. They admitedly missed a rather obvious elbow into Yvon’s face which won him a trip to the late night surgery. Duncan got a questionable charging call on what was a pretty good clean hockey hit.
Highlights were Jerreau Hohaia getting a hat trick and 2 assists I believe in his first game replacing departed Frederick Sparf on the top line. Damian Watson also didn’t take too kindly to getting chirped all day long by the back up goalie and tried going after him during the handshake. It earned him an intro to Jacques fist and probably a suspension. However it was instigated doesn’t really change the fact that its pretty budget to scrap in a handshake. Tomorrow will be interesting.
Our refs have shortfalls for sure however “discretion” becomes a dangerous thing because it changes in different hands. I don’t want to see a game not knowing how the refs are going to call it. I would like consistency from week to week. Since we play IIHF rules for the most part, I would also like consistency from country to country since member nations make up the reffing teams for championships. If refs will be pendantic and call everything, fine. Just do it consistently. I think its easier for players to adapt to the refs then asking refs to adapt to different paces of games and intensity levels. A penalty is a penalty regardless of what levels of emotions are involved in a game. Hence the reason penalties and their definitions are written down in the rule books. They don’t change because someone thinks refs should “let them play”. Just call a consistent game week in and week out and make sure they are actual penalties that are being called. Do that and I will be moderately happy.
yet the Gooch says emphatically that it won’t be an exhibition! HA! Run time periods with 10 skaters per side not an exhibition? It’s not a real hockey game so not sure what they are presenting.
"Active":2eq8gtxv wrote:And Ryan you never did call anyone criminals, that was Vpatrol. “scum’ was the delightful term you used
[/quote:2eq8gtxv]Can you please show me where I called them criminals?
"Active":1q77udya wrote:Put some kiwis dressed as Canadians and Americans. They can speak with fake accents and know one will ever know!
[/quote:1q77udya]Except for the not playing like americans or canadians part.
"thirteen":3hl1izkg wrote:PPPS plod, not sure if you have ever played hockey but when throwing a hip check on the wall it is quite easy for the back leg to swing out as you are trying for balance, maybe paul scott needs to excersize a little more discretion in making calls rather than get on a tangent of calling pedantic penalties that ruin a game. No one doubts his knowledge of the rules but his fair application of them leaves much to be desired. If he polices like he refs god help us all
[/quote:3hl1izkg]so having poor balance and putting your leg in the way of an opponent causing them to fall falls under what category of discretion? Should accidental tripping be waved off?
…or let it be run by someone who knows nothing about ice hockey and who states “I don’t care about ice hockey, I’m in it to make money”. Sounds like a great plan to me. I have a bit more confidence in the nzihf growing the game then some renegade promoters who have left others in the lurch before.
I’ve played pick up games that will rival the quality of this watered down game but we didn’t charge $200 a seat.
What big judgement calls? The opponents of the game will stay opponents despite your calls to stop complaining and I don’t expect you to share our views either. Not really a big call afterall. There clearly isn’t much of a point in trying to convince the other of anything is there? If you don’t like what you read, stop reading. We don’t like the product so we won’t go and will make sure others are aware of what is really on offer before they fork over their money and end up disappointed and feeling hard done by by hockey in NZ. If they are happy with the product like you appear to be, good stuff. Not that hard really
neither do we see the benefit of Douglas/Webber and their contribution. Is anyone expecting to receive accolades? Has anyone got their name in the paper yet? Active, perhaps you should just accept that people don’t like these guys actions and will do what they can to remedy it. You can attend the game and enjoy yourself if you wish and nobody will question you for it. Your views will not change the opinion of people here just as I suspect theirs will not change yours.
Highlight video was pretty good. I enjoyed that.
Stampede won game 2 8-4 and I believe admirals beat up on the devils too. Not sure of the score.
